NA r33 vs NA silvia

[NA_R33]

^^^very well said^^^

Nugget im sorry, but my best friend is one of the better drivers i know and he himself tells me his car is a joke (speed wise). so im not biased u could call him if u want, its a fact the ca engined silvia's r better suited to racing old men in wheelchairs.

[nismoman18]

i aint biased man, i speak the truth, look at the stats as well! i beat a 180sx running 1 bar boost b4, the guy thought i had a turbo, ive run almost even with 200sx's b4 as well. i tink the silvia owners would be quite biased as for skyline NA owners, well we just speak the truth!

[Nismodified]

i cruise with silvia's (s13,s14,s15 various mods) on a weekly basis, and have had friends with the cars in question.

If your a damn good driver, then you wont get beaten so badly whilst in a Ca-T. Those Ca's rev high, their redlines are high, but they simply dont produce enough tourque at those higher revs and simply run out of puff above 6ish.

If anything, im a bit bias towards S13's rather then skylines.

[Madtrang]

I used to own a manual ca18de silvia. I prefer my r32 alot better, beter build quality and turbo aswell. However the ca is an awsome engine, So strong, and so cheap. A ca has so much potential, Not saying that sr aren't good, they r gr8 but there's something about a Ca that make me prefer it. It just better built. Neither though it's got nowhere the power in comparison in stock format.

Ca just seems smoother and just like to rev's it self way up int the high rpm. I've saw my ca go all the way to 8400 rpm, and i think it could gone even more. I ran out of bituman. They just go hard.

[NS2500]

The factory quoted weight for the NA 2.5L is 1320kg from memory.

[h8t_copsr32]

well i dont like the silvias it dont beat N/A turbos are'nt good anymore nothing more then but milk and orange juice

you would get more power to weight ratio in the 180 and s13 Ks silvias but im fan of the old skool v'8 aswell

[gatty]

^^^^ WTF

lol

[OKBANANA]

lol wtf?

[nismoman18]

wow talk about bringing up an old thread!

[gatty]

yep

but my NA could beat a CA-T

[urbanoperations]

yae i d say stock for stock an N/A r33 will pretty much beat a S13 silvia...

[Greg]

i've driven both the sr and ca silvias and obviously my car. there is only a bit of a differences off the line between the sr and the ca (sr is more torquey, obviously). they both go like shit compared to the n/a skyline though. its no camparision. the silvia is better for drift though, imo, due to the chassis....

[pentae]

Hey guys,

Sorry to kill the mood in here but I own an s13 Silvia (the one with the sr20det engine).

I'm assuming a N/A skyline is slower than a turbo skyline right? Because I have raced countless amounts of turbo skylines, r32s, r33s, r34s and have not yet been beaten by anyone i've met on the road.

The only skyline that has beaten me is one I already knew: a good friends r33 gtst that has had about 15k spent on engine mods.

I've had very very close races, neck to neck.. but nothing has pulled away from me yet.

I REPEAT: No turbo skyline i've met on the road other than of course GTRs have beaten me from 0-180km/hr on the street. I am running stock boost.

I have driven a N/A skyline, N/a silvia, ca18det silvia, turbo skylines.. borrringg.

My car would not be considered heavily modified, but I do know that at a stock 164kw, 1200kgs and after a 3" exhaust, air filter.. your looking at close to 170-180kw.. What kind of drugs are nismoman18 smoking? A NA whale beating an sr20det running 1 bar? Was the guy behind the wheel of the 180sx unconscious? and rolling backwards?

So my answer to the topic would be, yes you could probably beat any S13 except for an sr20det s13, which will smoke your sorry ass.

Lets look at the quarter mile times on the stock vehicles:

NISSAN Silvia S13 1.8L Non-turbo = 17.20 sec

NISSAN Silvia/180sx S13 1.8L Turbo = 15.08 sec

NISSAN Silvia S13 2L Non-turbo = 16.50 sec

NISSAN Silvia/180sx S13 2L Turbo = 14.30 sec

NISSAN Skyline R32 GTS-T = 14.63 sec

NISSAN Skyline R33 GT-ST-25T = 14.39 sec

I dont have times for the N/A skyline anywhere, but I imagine if the R33 GTST does a 14.39 we can all agree that the NA's are slower?

ps. My next car is looking like its going to be an r32 GTR. I am not a skyline hater

[Genesis®]

i will have to agree with pentae on what he said. i drive an NA r32 with rb25de in it (yes, they do exist). Its much lighter than the 33s and i still lose out to silvias with sr20det. mods i have are the usual air pod and catback exhaust.

i am sure that they are not nicknamed the baby gozilla engines for nothing as compared to the powerful rb26dett.

it happened to me and i'm facting it.

[JAMESW]

i agree

[skyla]

I've been to the drags a number of times and seen N/A skylines and silvia's drag, to be honest there's not that much difference in the times. The silvia's (SR20 DE) will do consistant low 16's for the 1/4, I have seen a couple of guys get them into the high 15's.

The Rb25DE guys had times ranging from mid 15's to high 16's.

But from what I have seen is the silvia seems to get off the mark quicker and the RB engines have better top end power.

[WazR32GTSt]

those who think their NA skylines will beat sr20det-equipped silvias are kidding themselves

even ca18det-equipped cars i imagine would beat NA skylines

c'mon guys be realistic here...

and this is coming from a skyline lover!

[NuGGeT]

*sigh* i still inforce my comment made when this thread started.

[nmcmahon83]

RS13 K's weigh 1170kg and have 200hp 200lbft, this equates to 151kw and 274Nm, not the 164kw stated. This is also using japanese 101ron fuel. using 98 ron its down to around 145kw stock. Sure it is well known that the SR responds better to modifications, but when the R33 GTS-t has 170-180kW standard on 98 ron, and only weighs ~150kg heavier, these two cars are very close in stock form.

RS13 Silvia K's power/weight=7.767kg/Kw

R33 GTS-t power/weight=7.444kg/Kw

This debate is pointless, silvia guys will say silvia, skyline boys will say skyline and a few unbias opinions in between. A skyline is a classic sports saloon, a silvia is a disposable sports car. Depends what you are looking for.

[Pva_Glue]

to answer some of questions.

Auto R33 GTS-4 did 17.20 1/4 with stuff in the back and trunk.

I also hear R33 GTS did 14 something 1/4 with few weight adjustment...:

cheers

Joe