Major Differences Between Series 1 And Series 2?

[Ranga007]

yeh basically as the title says i have been chasing a manual rwd stagea for a while now but to no prevail.

but seeing tho the AWD can be made into RWD quite easilly i then decided RWD wasnt a nesessaty.

then i decided im going to do sum sort of engine conversion eventually into my stagea so changing from auto to manual at the time wont cost a great deal. compared to the price diff between auto and manual stageas atm.

so i just decided any old awd auto/manual stagea will do me fine.

but cnt decide between series 1 and 2.... was the major differences apart from the lights in the grill?

[KiwiRS4T]

yeh basically as the title says i have been chasing a manual rwd stagea for a while now but to no prevail.

but seeing tho the AWD can be made into RWD quite easilly i then decided RWD wasnt a nesessaty.

then i decided im going to do sum sort of engine conversion eventually into my stagea so changing from auto to manual at the time wont cost a great deal. compared to the price diff between auto and manual stageas atm.

so i just decided any old awd auto/manual stagea will do me fine.

but cnt decide between series 1 and 2.... was the major differences apart from the lights in the grill?

There is just such a thread on the next page (scroll down to the bottom and click on next page). BTW it is not easy to convert AWD into RWD ...if you're going to repower it just get a n/a car which are mostly RWD.

[Stinky Rooster]

The RWD and AWD stagea's are quite different structually, and while you CAN run an AWD stagea in RWD mode, there is no real advantage because you are still carrying around all the extra weight of the attessa system. You COULD get your hands on a NA version, but if you are in Australia you will never be able to get it complied as they don't get covered under our SEVS ruling.

[unique1]

i'd get a s1 because they are cheaper and look alot better s2 fronts are shocking, definately a turn off in my book anyway.

*gets ready for flaming*

if your changing from auto to manual u can just use a rb25 gtst box and it will get rid of the tf case, and an engine conversion will say goodbye to the front diff and sump arrangment. Then all u need is to pull the cv joints out of the front axles and just leave the part that bolts into the hub to hold the wheel bearing in and its done. Oh and remove the atessa pumps above the rear diff if u want.

i'd probably just get the rwd version if u had the choice between the two, but converting a 4wd to 2wd isnt a big drama at all.

[CL11QE]

i'd get a s1 because they are cheaper and look alot better s2 fronts are shocking, definately a turn off in my book anyway.

[Raysboostin]

hehehe nice!

i do like the ser1 front, but its gotta be ser2 rs4s FTW!!!

if ur gonna go manual rwd then i dont think its worth getting a 4wd auto. i think u can get rwd turbo stags. it would save alot of work. but i guess if its cheaper and u have the skills then go for it. just dont forget to post up all ur wicked skid videos.

Edited November 6, 2008 by Raysboostin

[CL11QE]

its gotta be ser2 rs4s FTW!!!

I think the rwd manual thing has been covered before, and from what my rather damaged

memory can recall, rwd stagea's werent available in manual??? im sure someone will correct

me if im wrong!

[unique1]

lol its my personal opinion, but i've always found more people like the s1 front over a s2 everytime i ask people (not just stagea owners)

[Ranga007]

so there are NA stageas out there? but they cant be complied in aus? so theres no point in me owning one then ay cause i live in QLD...

well my eventual goals are to put a twin charged ls1 into my stagea and RWD it, so yeh i wuld prefer a stock RWD turbo or non turbo dnt phase me, and auto/manual isnt to much of a problem. rwd > awd is my major concern atm and yeh trying to find a rwd aint easy.

[Stinky Rooster]

well, in that case you wil DEFINITELY want a RWD stagea complied in australia (the RWD stageas have a completely different shock tower arrangement and a little more room in the engine bay - this is what you will need for a wide angle LS1)

Stageas were offered all the way down to a RWD only powered by a NA RB20E

*shudders*

although why you would want one that spec is a little beyond me....

[Ranga007]

i want the cheapest stock RWD stagea i can find aslong as its in great condition lol

shuld be the first LS1 stagea in aus so yeh will be fun

[Raysboostin]

i dare say it will be the first, but definately not the last its good to see im not the only one that sees the benefit of BULK TORQUE!

[pixel8r]

I'd say the single biggest difference between s1 & s2 is a HUGE 60NM MORE TORQUE in the s2 and at 1000RPM LESS!!

Basically its going to get up and go a lot easier and feel a lot more effortless. The extra ~20kw is just icing on the cake.

In comparison to both, the M35 is only ~30kg heavier and has ~70NM more torque again than the s2, and at the same revs as where the s2 makes its peak torque. So as you can imagine the M35 feels a lot more nimble than the s2.

Torque makes a big difference, particularly in such a heavy car. It also is one of the reasons for the better fuel economy.

[Ranga007]

and major differences looks wise? just the headlights isnt it?

[Stinky Rooster]

Nope - different tail lights too

[GoldZilla]

That's right, tail-lights on the rear of the s2 have clear indicators, compared to orange on the s1.

[_Ryan_]

s1 Dayz looks best IMO