STR8E180 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 i had my car on the dyno for a tune yesterday and when we got to 400kw it started running into problems with fuel we had a fuel pressure + flow gauge connect to the car while we were tuning the flow doesnt drop at all but the fuel pressure goes from 40psi to 60psi and then just drops back down to 40 instead of going higher it just drops back to 40 and the car leans out so we neva got to finish the tuning fuel system is pretty basic bosch 023 (rated at 700hp) mounted intake SARD 800cc injectors HKS fuel reg Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33GTRKid Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 dirty fuel filter? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4284754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 well pressure dropping is usually an indictor of pump running out of puff, or faulty fuel regulator, not restrictive fuel rail. are you sure the fuel flow wasn't affected at all by pressure change? where were you measuring the flow, and how? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4284759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Wont be the fuel rail, will be something else Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4285194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerman4 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 isnt the 023 rated less then a 044? could be upgrade time Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4285291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acsplit Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 if you are running stock wiring to your fuel pump then that will be part of your issue kemp Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4285614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r33_racer Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 pump might not be getting full volts and isnt pumping its rated flow??? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4286426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1GTR Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Who has actually found the limits of the stock fuel rail? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4287592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STR8E180 Posted November 28, 2008 Author Share Posted November 28, 2008 dirty fuel filter? its got a brand new fuel filter already on it well pressure dropping is usually an indictor of pump running out of puff, or faulty fuel regulator, not restrictive fuel rail. are you sure the fuel flow wasn't affected at all by pressure change? where were you measuring the flow, and how? it cant be a fuel reg because at 1st we thought it was a faulty fuel reg and replaced my SARD fuel reg with a HKS one and it changed nothing the fuel gauge we have is the blue one the gauge is used to measure fuel pressure the it has a ball which moves up and down to show u how much fuel flow u have isnt the 023 rated less then a 044?could be upgrade time the 044 is rated at 600hp the 023 is rated at 700hp if you are running stock wiring to your fuel pump then that will be part of your issue kemp we have already wired the fuel pump so it gets full voltage Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4290017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiTAN Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 are you sure the 023 is rated higher than a 044? From what info i could find the 023 is rated at 163L/H @ 5bar vs. the 044 rated at 200L/H @ 5bar. The HP ratings on pumps vary by 300hp depending on where you buy them, the L/H don't. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4290062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggaz Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Who has actually found the limits of the stock fuel rail? I know its not the answer to your question but i had just on 400 KW at the treads on a stock rail and Nismo regulator. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4290131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverine Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 slight correction 023 168L/h @ 5bar 044 200L/h @ 5bar Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4290141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1GTR Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I know its not the answer to your question but i had just on 400 KW at the treads on a stock rail and Nismo regulator. Cool thanks Would be good to know at what point it gives up for future reference and anyone doing a search will no doubt read this thread and hope to find the answer Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4290331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 slight correction023 168L/h @ 5bar 044 200L/h @ 5bar ^^ there you have it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4290410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerman4 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 at 400 rwkws i would be starting to think about 2 044 to give you some room to play. as i mentioned earlier 1 x 023 would be simply running out of legs. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4290525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STR8E180 Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 ok ill give the 044 shot and see how it does is any one running a 044 intank??? i realli dont wanna go surge tank and external pump it is my daily car Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4291074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Why? I run a surge/external in mine and i drive it daily. I cant say its that much louder at all if the pump is mounted decently Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4291170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STR8E180 Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 Why?I run a surge/external in mine and i drive it daily. I cant say its that much louder at all if the pump is mounted decently i realli dont want to go threw all the trouble of fitting a surge tank and all the lines im after some thing i can just bolt in and fit the problem i wanna get out of this the most cheapest way i can as well Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4291214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Just fit another 023 in the tank, it can be done, or run an external pump without a surge tank Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4291286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirRacer Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Ive got a proper bracket which is mounted with rubber to the floor and my pumps still as noisy as hell. If i could do it again i wouldnt have gone surge tank. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/246492-at-wat-power-level-do-u-start-running-into-problems-with-the-standard-rb26-fuel-rail/#findComment-4291361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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