warming up

[PTR33]

Hey, arent we forgetting the obvious here... the sooner I wear out the RB25, the sooner I can replace it with a RB26 or RB30 :-)

[ecenshu]

Im sure that the people with oil temp guages in their car will agree with me on this one.

Yep...definitely about 10 mins for the oil to reach anywhere near operating temps(thrashable temps). My drive to work takes 15 mins...I baby it for the 1st third then by that time...I'm in heavy traffic! Oh well...look forward to the weekend to stretch it's legs, for the daily grind, I'll baby her...plus it helps my fuel consumption!

[MANWHORE]

Come on fellars, as much as we like to think that a skyline is a super performance machine, at the end of the day, it is a car. In japan, they are our version of commondore. Well, not really, but almost. All this talk about warm idling and taking it easy. Just drive it.

I let my car idle for about a minute. That is start up the car, put my stuff in the car, sit down, and go. Who in their right mind would even think about going a different path just to warm up their car? As a turbo car, it is important to let the oil circulate for a sec to lub the turbo. Then, just go. After the turb is lubed, it is the same as a normal car. Do you see commodore drivers warming up, or circling the block at 40 km/hr to warm it up, or driving on the freeway at 80?

All this analness that you guys are doing will make minimal difference in the end. Might last a few more ks. If you think about it, most likely you may not even have the car in a few years time. Most commondores and other cars last 10-15 years and around 200 000ks. Isn't this enough? in 15 years time r33s will be an absolute shitbox. Would you even wanna be driving it around anymore?

[Revhead]

Holy resurrect a thread batman!

Why bother washing the car, the paint will be rooted in 10 years' time anyway. It'll be due for new tyres too eventually, so I might as well just torch the crap out of the ones I've got.

I don't see what's so anal about not flogging an engine until it's had time to warm up. I mean really, who in their right mind canes any car when it's stone cold? If you see anyone caning a cold engine, feel free to call them an idiot.

I looked after my VC Commodore no differently than I do the R33, except that the 33 will idle without pumping the throttle for the first couple of minutes

[MANWHORE]

rev head, you have taken what i said to the extreme. I'm not saying go off and flog it straight away when it's cold. I'm just saying that you should just drive it normal without being all anal about taking it ultra easy in the beginning.

Let me give you an example. Driving it around the block a few times taking it ultra easy. Worrying about going 100 ks/hr after they said that it takes 5 minutes to get there. Thinking about going a longer route.

The difference between driving it normal (say as your parents would) and being ultra anal is minimal.

[Timd]

I think it comes down to whatever YOU feel comfortable with. If your happy to drive it soon as it turns over go for it, as others have said probably wont do damage if its babyd for a few minutes. If you prefer to let it sit for a minute fine, not hurting anyone, you couldnt spit more fuel than is being used in that minute either. Personally i let mine sit until i have seatbelt on, windows down or until i feel ready to drive off(minute or so). I believe my car runs better if left to warm up a little, specially on these cold mornings. I know ppl with v8s, skylines etc who will turn there car over in their driveway, walk back inside do this and that then drive it. They swear by it.

Just like those speeding adds, is taking that extra minute to get to your destination really going to make a difference? IMO

[toddlls]

just out of curiosity, how long on average do you take to warm up your car?

i take at least one cigarette time to warm up (10mins approx), that is when i see the oil temp needle touches the first white line and my rpm sits around 900.

i feel that it's a little long, and it doesn't help when i'm rushing to school. been considering a remote start too.

comments?

p.s i drive an R33 GTST M-spec

My old mans a mechanic, he says this: When a car has first been started and is running at idle the amount of oil flowing around the motor is negligable ie low oil pressure, oil will not reach all areas of the engine correctly until the the oil pump is opporating at revs. Oil pumps reach their maximum pump pressure @3000rpm. You should never exceed 3000rpm until engine temp is at normal operating temp. It is also important to correctly warm down a motor with the final k's done within normal driving operation not thrashing the pants off it. I drove a highly boosted to 16lb Laser Tx3-4WD to 360,000km's on the clock without engine failure by following this advice with regular 5000km oil/filter changes until I sold it and joined the "Legion of Skyline-There can be no other"

Thats my 2c

[Modena]

I keep it under 2000 RPM until the temp needle has reached the middle point. Usually takes about 5 minutes of driving for it to warm up. Then I can start boosting past 2000 RPM.

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

Start the car up for about 5mins just b4 I goto work. If Iam running late I'll give it atleast 1min or 2 and take off easy. Drive it easy for a good 5 - 10 mins and everything is at normal driving temp.

Also the weather can effect it too. If its a hot day then the car will not need as long to warm up.

Edited February 4, 2008 by (00)SKYLINE(00)

[Modena]

I cringe every time when I see cars being thrashed right after the start up.

[GeeTR]

What an old thread. Im not so sure a general rule of "3kRPM"

I figure, clearences are designed around operating temperature, so keeping it below 3K for 10mins (if theres traffic, in winter conditions) can effect bearing wear. I give it 30-60s then drive keeping under 4'ish. As it warms up, lean on it more.

[Rav]

I start her up and wait untill the car is warmed up about 1/4 Then i just cruise it untill it warms up then i give her some boost.

[WET-25T]

I start my car, set the turbo timer to 6 mins, go inside and brush my teeth, then jump in my car and by that stage its been on for about 3.5 to 4 mins, then i drive off and go the speed limit till it reaches its normal operating temp. After that if i feel the need to speed i will with a clear conscience.

Edited February 6, 2008 by WET-25T

[Baconer]

that temp gauge is water temp, not oil temp.

30 seconds - 1min idle and 5mins of driving off boost are more than enough.

[mosquitocoils]

I start my car, set the turbo timer to 6 mins, go inside and brush my teeth, then jump in my car and by that stage its been on for about 3.5 to 4 mins, then i drive off and go the speed limit till it reaches its normal operating temp. After that if i feel the need to speed i will with a clear conscience.

EXACTLY what I do... I couldn't believe someone else saying exactly what I was going to!

[krzysiu]

EXACTLY what I do... I couldn't believe someone else saying exactly what I was going to!

This has been covered 100 times but cant believe it needs to be said. The LONGER your car takes to reach operating oil temp will just do it more damage! You let your car idle there because you think its good for the engine when its not! Jump in, start the car. Put on your seatbelt. Set your radio. Then start driving at low rpm off boost untill it reaches operating temp. Your gearbox oil, diff oil and everything else doesnt get warmed up with your car just sitting there.

[br3ndan]

This has been covered 100 times but cant believe it needs to be said. The LONGER your car takes to reach operating oil temp will just do it more damage! You let your car idle there because you think its good for the engine when its not! Jump in, start the car. Put on your seatbelt. Set your radio. Then start driving at low rpm off boost untill it reaches operating temp. Your gearbox oil, diff oil and everything else doesnt get warmed up with your car just sitting there.

Agreed. That prob equates to what? 30 seconds?

Lets end the debate there. =)

[silver zed]

alright guys i know its a bit overboard but i love my car its my pride and joy and couldnt stand the fact of it wearing away.so this is my daily ritual:

4am, wake up, go to garage drain all the oil in the car inc gearbox.

6am, put all the fluid in the massive pot stick a temp gauge in it and bring up to specified boiling temp.(you wanna get it just a bit over cuz it will cool down a lil b4 puttin it back in2 car)

6.30am, put all fluids back in the car just in time to drive to work.

6.32am have the car sideways out of the driveway with no worries of engine wear

[MSTRshenanigans]

Previous to a service I got a squeak as a belt moved on cool start, and if I accelerated prior to warm up it sounded bad... I normally warm it up for 5 mins or until the oil guage is under that middle line it sits above just after start... doesn't run rich when driving and I have a 100km zone out front so its gotta be ready to go

[r33cruiser]

alright guys i know its a bit overboard but i love my car its my pride and joy and couldnt stand the fact of it wearing away.so this is my daily ritual:

4am, wake up, go to garage drain all the oil in the car inc gearbox.

6am, put all the fluid in the massive pot stick a temp gauge in it and bring up to specified boiling temp.(you wanna get it just a bit over cuz it will cool down a lil b4 puttin it back in2 car)

6.30am, put all fluids back in the car just in time to drive to work.

6.32am have the car sideways out of the driveway with no worries of engine wear

true story?