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Craig don't you have the Haltech installed? Is it the PS2000?

Had a Haltech Platnum series.....go rid of it a long time ago!

Now have a Nismo piggybacked with and E-Manage Ultimate......I have bugger all low end restrictions with throttle or Cam's......as seen first hand by PN-Mad both in 2WD and 4WD!

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I worked out how to get rid the Emanage Ultimate ignition error code, it can be done inside the EMU box so if anyone wants the code gone, send it to me and I will upgrade it.

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Had a Haltech Platnum series.....go rid of it a long time ago!

Now have a Nismo piggybacked with and E-Manage Ultimate......I have bugger all low end restrictions with throttle or Cam's......as seen first hand by PN-Mad both in 2WD and 4WD!

Ahh ok...I think the Etuner's site has your car there listed with haltech....that's why I asked

Sunkist Grand Master

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Had a Haltech Platnum series.....go rid of it a long time ago!

Now have a Nismo piggybacked with and E-Manage Ultimate......I have bugger all low end restrictions with throttle or Cam's......as seen first hand by PN-Mad both in 2WD and 4WD!

i still cant get over this.. mines still yuck on take off lol..

i wanna see it happen in Video form!

Jetwreck Grand Master

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I had the Impul on by itself......I also had just put on the suction pipe and the fabricators had not followed my instructions correctly so I had a slight over boosting problem and as the Impul has no restrictions it helped me to melt a cylinder.

Never had a PS2000 on my car!

Ironpaw where is this Etuners site you speak of....I might have to go and update it a little!huh.gif

iamhe77 Grand Master

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.....and if I remember correctly OZ is punching bigger numbers than Japan with the E-manage ultimate with a VQ25det!

You don't remember correctly.

450awps (331awkw) has been done in a street registered NM35 in Japan.

Scott isn't there yet... at least not until the new turbo is installed (if it ever fkn arrives!!).

Having said that, all the "big number" NM35's in Japan have had their capacity increased to over 3L.

Much more impressed with the 2.5L numbers Aus is producing!

Jetwreck Grand Master

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i still cant get over this.. mines still yuck on take off lol..

i wanna see it happen in Video form!

I need to find someone stupid enough to sit in the car with me and film:P....where Andy when I need him...lol!....I wont do it again until the shift kit goes in either!.....then I might have to do a quarter run!

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So with the throttle restrictions; can someone with a stock ecu & an informeter tell me what they get as an output from the "Throttle %" if they flatten the accelerator from a stationary position? Does that corroborate the restriction or is it 'futher' along the line?

Jetwreck Grand Master

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You don't remember correctly.

450awps (331awkw) has been done in a street registered NM35 in Japan.

Scott isn't there yet... at least not until the new turbo is installed (if it ever fkn arrives!!).

Having said that, all the "big number" NM35's in Japan have had their capacity increased to over 3L.

Much more impressed with the 2.5L numbers Aus is producing!

Scott's will smash that on E85......shit I recon I'll get to that with a shift kit and 100 Octane and 20PSI and no F-Con Pro!

iamhe77 Grand Master

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Scott's will smash that on E85......shit I recon I'll get to that with a shift kit and 100 Octane and 20PSI and no F-Con Pro!

Take a breath Craig.

That 450awps was on pump... and yes, I know Scott will smash that power level... and yes I know that with the old turbo, his car had very little lag.

Oh, I should mention that particular car wasn't using the Fcon V-Pro... it was using the iS.

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So with the throttle restrictions; can someone with a stock ecu & an informeter tell me what they get as an output from the "Throttle %" if they flatten the accelerator from a stationary position? Does that corroborate the restriction or is it 'futher' along the line?

I ran a cable throttle and still had the same takeoff, the cams go into full retard below 35? Kph to negate the need for traction control and make the car nice and friendly do drive. I will have the stock cam mapping data soon when I install the Vmanage so I will let you know exactly what it does.

Jetwreck Grand Master

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Take a breath Craig.

That 450awps was on pump... and yes, I know Scott will smash that power level... and yes I know that with the old turbo, his car had very little lag.

Oh, I should mention that particular car wasn't using the Fcon V-Pro... it was using the iS.

I'm breathing just fine buddy!

Hey did they post up the dyno sheet.....I remember seeing a couple but that was a while ago.......want to compare to Scott's and mine....cannot find in in my J a p browser for some reason!

So what's that advantage of the Fcon units?

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I ran a cable throttle and still had the same takeoff, the cams go into full retard below 35? Kph to negate the need for traction control and make the car nice and friendly do drive. I will have the stock cam mapping data soon when I install the Vmanage so I will let you know exactly what it does.

DO WANT THIS!!!

hurry up!!! before my reno funds dry up!! :ninja:

iamhe77 Grand Master

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No dyno sheet unfortunately.

Both F-con's intercept the signal from the ECU to the engine and modify it as per the tune, but they are quite different.

Fcon iS is pretty much an eManage Ultimate + Vmanage, but with a Video output... and it looks pretty (not that you'd see it :P).

That being that it add's/subtracts to the OEM ECU's signals (timing, fuel etc etc).

The problem with this is that the stock ECU is damn clever and will react to the return signal accordingly.

(ie Ecu sends signal to engine, iS intercepts signal and adds a fixed number of degrees to the timing, signal returns from engine to stock ECU, ECU takes additional timing out to bring it in line with what the stock levels "should" be, iS intercepts and adds it's fixed number again - which is now less due to the reduction in timing in the "send" signal from the ECU).

I guess the trick here is to tune outside of the stock ECU's limits :)

Fcon V-Pro intercepts the OEM ECU signal and completely replaces the them with the "tuned" information, so regardless of what the stock ECU receives and adjusts for in the return signal, the V-Pro dictates the parameters in it's "base" tune to the Engine.

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So with the throttle restrictions; can someone with a stock ecu & an informeter tell me what they get as an output from the "Throttle %" if they flatten the accelerator from a stationary position? Does that corroborate the restriction or is it 'futher' along the line?

I think it is 79%. If no one else weighs in to say differently l can plug it in & do a test. I do know that I can't get above 87%, ever.

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