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Are you referring to me ^^^

if so i didnt quote any power figures/ model or boost pressures !

and why would i lie, was just saying thats what i had and what happened when i changed.

And the turbo wasnt genuine t04 it was special hybrid built from Bill at ATS which is still currently on my car ! ( just used as reference for size )

Sure am.

Well without providing any information/results, then whats the point of making such a statement?

I'd like to see pressure numbers before/after cooler please.

Also temps pre and post cooler please after 15mins.

I suspect you've not even tested it, happy to be proven wrong here.

Ash he didn't say TO4Z, just T04, he could be running some GTS-R dinosaur turbo or something lol

mmm guess i shouldnt assume people have stopped using 1970's technology :whistling:

My bad :D

Indeed, could be any turbo, who knows. No numbers or anything provided when we all know R34 SMIC start getting maxed around 220-240rwkw from pressure drop and/or heat soak.

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all i was saying is, all i changed was the 34smic to a greedy front mount and my car is now laggy, didnt know i needed a dyno to tel me that !

hence me being curious about the person that is now finding restrictions with the xr6 cooler an why i asked for results of what he finds.

all i was saying is, all i changed was the 34smic to a greedy front mount and my car is now laggy, didnt know i needed a dyno to tel me that !

hence me being curious about the person that is now finding restrictions with the xr6 cooler an why i asked for results of what he finds.

Well no. You said, and i quote

how did use come to the conclusion the cooler is holding it up /snip/

Curious as i used to run 34 smic on my ceffy and r33 with t04 and never had problem, an they half the size.

You've said your setup was perfect without giving us one iota of information about it.

One would assume you have the information to back this up.

So my question stands.

1. What testing did you do to prove this?

while im here i'll chuck in a 2nd.

2. What setup were you using exactly?

Just because it made some numbers on a dyno doesnt tell anyone a thing.

all i was saying is, all i changed was the 34smic to a greedy front mount and my car is now laggy, didnt know i needed a dyno to tel me that !

hence me being curious about the person that is now finding restrictions with the xr6 cooler an why i asked for results of what he finds.

there must be another issue. we often upgrade and customers love how much "free'r" the car feels. The 34 cooler can hardly do 4 pulls on a dyno without heat soaking and wont do more than one lap before becoming useless.

dude numbers aside, i was just saying my car became a lag monster, i/ me driving it was the proof, i still drive the shitbox everyday, if i hadnt cut the front bar out i would put the 34 cooler back on.

Never said anything was perfect just said the the fmic sucked, maybe not for intake temps like your saying, hence why i asked other guy to post results from xr6 cooler as this is what i was going to use on my 33 as an upgrade to the 34smic.

I didnt come in here to start argument or defend my self i was actually asking and just saying what i have felt/done first hand, not read or heard !

well, the threads gone to shite again,

for a bit of history. i was running 350rwhp with xforce exhaust, 550cc injectors, highflow, 600*300 fmic, blah blah blah @ 16psi. changed the xforce to a super drager as the xforce was a bit droney and redynoed at 330rwhp @ 14psi. removed 600*300 fmic and fitted xr6 intercooler and now at 15psi only making 290rwhp. fmic fault i would say. a falcon will make more power than mine as it is a 4 litre and needs less boost to make more power. pushing 15 psi through these just doesn't work unfortunately.

FYI, i am currently running RB25 with hks 2530 and typhoon FMIC tuned 17psi tapering off to 12psi at redline = 225rwkw, standard airbox & quiet exhaust. Same setup with with xr6 intercooler only made 210rwkw i think. Typhoon ain't that much bigger than xr6 but obviously made a difference and was almost a straight swap. Seems to work fine for me, I don't think I could make much more with that turbo anyway, without making the intake & exhaust much more 'illegal'.

my 2 cents

there must be another issue. we often upgrade and customers love how much "free'r" the car feels. The 34 cooler can hardly do 4 pulls on a dyno without heat soaking and wont do more than one lap before becoming useless.

when i changed from std smic to 34smic the car pulled sooo much better,only to be lost when fmic.

Also i dont need to sit on the dyno all day an i dont do track work its a daily so really when is a 600x300 fmic on a daily practical

Well now that everyone has had their say still be good to see the results when he changes from xr6 cooler.

My next question then could i lose some of my lag by down sizing the intercooler pipes ?

if so whats the smallest before this becomes a pressure drop issue ?

i also read sometime back that having smaller pipes 1 side of the core and larger the other helps response ?

can anyone shed some light on this

when i changed from std smic to 34smic the car pulled sooo much better,only to be lost when fmic.

Also i dont need to sit on the dyno all day an i dont do track work its a daily so really when is a 600x300 fmic on a daily practical

Well now that everyone has had their say still be good to see the results when he changes from xr6 cooler.

My next question then could i lose some of my lag by down sizing the intercooler pipes ?

if so whats the smallest before this becomes a pressure drop issue ?

i also read sometime back that having smaller pipes 1 side of the core and larger the other helps response ?

can anyone shed some light on this

There is another problem because yes upgrading to a front mount you will feel a lil bit of lag but it is not enough of a difference that you should really notice and be fussed with, If you saying its a lag monster and what not then you probably do have a problem maybe something as simple as a boost leak because 99percent of people who put a fmic dont complian and say thed rather go back.

Also see how well your car does in peak summer compared to the fmic those stock coolers are just shit.

when i changed from std smic to 34smic the car pulled sooo much better,only to be lost when fmic.

Also i dont need to sit on the dyno all day an i dont do track work its a daily so really when is a 600x300 fmic on a daily practical

Well now that everyone has had their say still be good to see the results when he changes from xr6 cooler.

My next question then could i lose some of my lag by down sizing the intercooler pipes ?

if so whats the smallest before this becomes a pressure drop issue ?

i also read sometime back that having smaller pipes 1 side of the core and larger the other helps response ?

can anyone shed some light on this

Smaller pipes will help but will impede flow, better would be to shorten the piping which is just too long with the return flow coolers.

  • 1 year later...

Will i just had an XR6 Turbo IC fitted to my R33.

Have a Power FC, RB20DET wastegate actuator, fuel pump and turbo back exhaust.

Pulled 178RWKW.

Only minor trimming or the bumper and no cutting of the reo bar required.

pics to follow...

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