How Good Is Nistune?

[T04GTR]

nistune is great. provided the doner ecu isnt coroded on the inside.

[D_Stirls]

according to the nistune site the speedlab got 373kw out of a rb20 running a nistune.

They certainly did make that power, and that was on a Standard RB20 with something like a T04Z on it.

Here's a thread with the results in it.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Tu...-M-t214053.html

As Paul said Nistune is basically an interface between the Factory ECU (which uses Hex Code) and your laptop. It allows people to tune the factory ECU with out them needing to know Hex code or the address files.

[darkhalf]

After using the Japanese ROM hex editing packages and having some information about the decoding, not to mention the information that came about at the time from PLMS about the consult interface it was just a matter of putting a good interface on there and then using NVRAM boards instead of emulators made things a lot easier. At the time we had no idea it would be taken up so well!

Edited August 9, 2010 by darkhalf

[Nackerz]

I had the nistune in my vl.

Some one said that the only way to max out nistune is when your injectors are maxed out...

Thats when you upgrade your injectors etc and then tell the ecu via the tuning and you are back at the start of tuning again. THERE IS NO WAY POSSIBLE TO MAX OUT THE NISTUNE

[Mr.Massive]

Nistune fixed all of my car problems apart from my driver side window going up to high

[greensa14]

^^LOL. Damn Nistune not fixing your windows!

Just got my Nistune done this week. Power delivery is so smooth now. Car made a lot more power on a lot less boost than my old piggyback i had with the same mods.

I highly recommend this for anyone with basic bolt on mods or all out car with all the fruit.

And thanks to the Chasers crew!

[Marcus89]

^^LOL. Damn Nistune not fixing your windows!

Just got my Nistune done this week. Power delivery is so smooth now. Car made a lot more power on a lot less boost than my old piggyback i had with the same mods.

I highly recommend this for anyone with basic bolt on mods or all out car with all the fruit.

And thanks to the Chasers crew!

Agreed the value for money for nistune blows everything out of the water since the computer is cheap to begin with and then tuners don't have to do cold start maps which are a PITA.

Unless you were going for any absolute beast with some stupid power figure nistune would be the go. Any car being used as a daily should not anything other than a nistune

[samuri]

Agreed the value for money for nistune blows everything out of the water since the computer is cheap to begin with and then tuners don't have to do cold start maps which are a PITA.

Unless you were going for any absolute beast with some stupid power figure nistune would be the go. Any car being used as a daily should not anything other than a nistune

With a stock standard non turbo skyline 2500 cc, used as a daily with no intention to modify what measurable performance differences are we talking about? I have no concept whatsoever

1. eg 3% or 5% or 20% improvement in acceleration times?
   2. More torque at lower speeds?
   3. Better fuel economy eg 1 % or 5% or 10%?
   

I am a bit lost on this topic and a complete novice, even after reading through this thread . the Nistune site wasnt helpful..

Am I buying some Nistune hardware for a few hundred dollars to be installed in my car to allow a Nistune operator to achieve this better tune ?

If so does this allow future tunes to be done with minimal labor and save the dollars?

What is the difference between a high performance tune and a normal tune by a mechanic that is good at his or her craft?

if the former then wont that mean daily driving around town will result in poor fuel economy but excellent highway economy?

[PaulosECR33]

i know where ever you go its the same but i hate it when all someone does is sell their product with no regard for your budget or anything, i guess its business but its still annoying, i am lost when it comes to this and this topic has already helped me heaps, very happy to read that nistune is capable or supporting quite big power

[Moodles2]

Mechanic's don't actually "tune" cars, people (australians) run their cars into the ground by the time it gets to the mechanic for its regular maintenance, changing spark plugs, air filter, fuel filter, oil, oil filter etc and the car feels like new again. That's where the perceived "tune" come from. A "high performance tune" is where the car is on a dynometer (rolling road) and generally someone who specializes in that sort of car tweaks the ECU (Nistune etc) to make the engine more efficient at making power, but you don't need to worry about that having a non-turbo because the stock ECU does an ok job at stock power.. any money spent on it's performance is just a waste, best just to sell it and buy a turbo skyline.

[samuri]

Mechanic's don't actually "tune" cars, people (australians) run their cars into the ground by the time it gets to the mechanic for its regular maintenance, changing spark plugs, air filter, fuel filter, oil, oil filter etc and the car feels like new again. That's where the perceived "tune" come from. A "high performance tune" is where the car is on a dynometer (rolling road) and generally someone who specializes in that sort of car tweaks the ECU (Nistune etc) to make the engine more efficient at making power, but you don't need to worry about that having a non-turbo because the stock ECU does an ok job at stock power.. any money spent on it's performance is just a waste, best just to sell it and buy a turbo skyline.

I also have a nissan turbo.

So just to confirm your opinion.For a non turbo its a waste but for a standard GTS -T ( no modifications )it a performance tune by Nistune would be a lot better( than say gong to ultratune).

What does more efficient mean in terms of actual on the ground figures?Still have no concept.

[paulR32gtr]

Your car has a computer that has some software loaded on it by nissan before it leaves the factory.

This software decides how much fuel to inject, and when to fire the spark plugs based on how much air it sees going in to the engine.

If you start to increase the amount of air going in to the engine (i.e. by modifying it), the nissan software will not handle this efficiently. It will think there is a problem with the engine, and go into a safe mode - slowing the engine down.

You can install Nistune hardware into your computer, and that allows a tuner to easily change the software on it that tells it how much fuel to inject, and when to fire the sparkplugs - so the engine runs optimally based the greater amount of air now entering the engine.

[Moodles2]

I also have a nissan turbo.

So just to confirm your opinion.For a non turbo its a waste but for a standard GTS -T ( no modifications )it a performance tune by Nistune would be a lot better( than say gong to ultratune).

What does more efficient mean in terms of actual on the ground figures?Still have no concept.

Nistune is NOT a workshop/tuner, it is the company that makes the hardware that is installed inside the factory ECUs that allows it to be reprogrammed in real time.

In the past the only option with the factory ECUs was to have the EEPROM chip removed, reprogrammed and then resoldered back into the ECU. This is an expensive exercise at about $500 a pop. Whereas Nistune is a once-off $220ish for the hardware itself, then maybe another $60-$80 for it to be soldered into the ECU (or for free if you have a friend with good soldering skill), then a full dyno tune can be anywhere from $500-$900 depending on mods, and anytime you do any performance mod in the future it will probably cost less than $100 as the tuning is done through the CONSULT port, no need to open the ECU at all (where you would be paying $500 to have the EEPROM chip taken out, reprogrammed and soldered back in).

Nistune is great value because you retain the factory diagnostics, and for comparison an aftermarket ecu, the Apexi PFC alone is at least $1200 imported from Japan

[samuri]

Nistune is NOT a workshop/tuner, it is the company that makes the hardware that is installed inside the factory ECUs that allows it to be reprogrammed in real time.

In the past the only option with the factory ECUs was to have the EEPROM chip removed, reprogrammed and then resoldered back into the ECU. This is an expensive exercise at about $500 a pop. Whereas Nistune is a once-off $220ish for the hardware itself, then maybe another $60-$80 for it to be soldered into the ECU (or for free if you have a friend with good soldering skill), then a full dyno tune can be anywhere from $500-$900 depending on mods, and anytime you do any performance mod in the future it will probably cost less than $100 as the tuning is done through the CONSULT port, no need to open the ECU at all (where you would be paying $500 to have the EEPROM chip taken out, reprogrammed and soldered back in).

Nistune is great value because you retain the factory diagnostics, and for comparison an aftermarket ecu, the Apexi PFC alone is at least $1200 imported from Japan

Great CONCISE ANSWER MOODLES2. Everything is very clear.

For normal city and Highway driving it sounds like for an unmodified car the modification of the ECU by attaching a Nistune piece of hardware would be of little or no benefit. if this is a wrong assumption then what statistical benefit are we talking about?

Can somone Show me the numbers for a base skyline 2500cc non turbo skyline

[ezy_09s]

Im interested to know who is making the most power in a gtr using the nistune ? & what afm's are being used.

There are obvious advantages using the nistune & would like to compare with the likes of a haltech plug in pro..im looking to make 380 + rwkw and was

ready to go for the haltech, but out of curiosity would like to know if others here are using it on decent powered gtr's.

[Adriano]

" and anytime you do any performance mod in the future it will probably cost less than $100 "

Dont think so...

[Moodles2]

What car are you planning to Nistune? You say you have a Nissan turbo, but your garage says you have a GTS (N/A), but then you ask about a GTS-T, you aren't making any sense.

If we are talking about a GTS-T (turbo), the Nissan basemap (the factory tune) are always quite rich and on the safe side, by cleaning up the basemap up you can get slightly better fuel economy and at the same time make alittle more power (maybe 5-20kw?, something best to be put to your prefered performance workshop/tuner), but first it's best to do supporting mods (boost controller at a safe level say 10psi for the stock turbo, better smic or fmic, less restricting exhaust from the turbo back with a hiflow cat, highflow air filter etc)

[Moodles2]

" and anytime you do any performance mod in the future it will probably cost less than $100 "

Dont think so...

I would imagine it wouldn't take any longer than a hour on the dyno if it's had a full tune in the past?

[samuri]

What car are you planning to Nistune? You say you have a Nissan turbo, but your garage says you have a GTS (N/A), but then you ask about a GTS-T, you aren't making any sense.

If we are talking about a GTS-T (turbo), the Nissan basemap (the factory tune) are always quite rich and on the safe side, by cleaning up the basemap up you can get slightly better fuel economy and at the same time make alittle more power (maybe 5-20kw?, something best to be put to your prefered performance workshop/tuner), but first it's best to do supporting mods (boost controller at a safe level say 10psi for the stock turbo, better smic or fmic, less restricting exhaust from the turbo back with a hiflow cat, highflow air filter etc)

Sory of my post was unclear Moodles

I used a GTS-T as I thought it would get the most responses . I have a stagea M35,and not many of those around

My Stagea M35b is a turbo (206k)

My GTS Skyline is a non turbo

I am seeking information to ascertain if its a good investment to use a NISTUNE or a waste of money on non modified cars .

I would see 10 kw as a significant jump

thanks for th equick replies . I have learnt a lot for your 2 posts

Edited August 26, 2010 by samuri

[ezy_09s]

No big power gtr's using nistune ??