zebra Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 hahaha If only the nissan stagea came in ute form right?Find me one of those and I'll buy it. will go for a test drive later this week... I owned a Ford XR6 a while ago, thought it was good for the money. does anyone know if the holden is capable of having the hook points on the outside of the tray for the soft Tornau??? Because when i owned the old Ford that was the best thing about it... i've seen the new soft tornau's and how they latch up on the inside personally i think the older ones are better. The commodore soft cover setup is MUCH better than the clips, and Im a ford man through and through. both the L98 and the 4L turbo are excellent engines. the ford will carry more in the tray. but either way I would be happy with any of them. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5527017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 You mean 98 ron?-shakehead- Also what fails, is holden's "brand new touchscreen" system.... Soarers came out with touch screen dash in the early 1990s -.- Go FPV Yes they also came with an AUD equivalent $100,000+ pricetag too. Technology always filters down to the family car maker after prestige are done with it - you didn't expect Holden to make a profit off selling a $20,000 Commodore with touch screen and electric seats at the time did you? Both these cars are great...in contrast to zebra, I'm a Holden man...but over the years I've come to appreciate both Holden and Ford for how far they have come with the vehicles they are producing. Forum opinions are useless for this kind of thing unless there are known problems with one or the other...go test drive them both and flip a coin if you get stuck. You probably won't look back with either choice. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5527040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTR R35 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Being the owner of a FPV and a Ford, I am a bit biased, but your choice of a BF FPV Tornado vs a new SS-V, I would get the Holden. The reaosn is the new commo has better tech than the BF. If you put a SSV and a New FG XR6Turbo ute, I would get the Ford. The Ford FG is so much nicer inside than the Holden and will also carry 1ton, be more responsive to mods (300rwkw under $3k) and if you get the ZF auto is a gearbox made in heaven. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5527160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macdog Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 The commodore soft cover setup is MUCH better than the clips, and Im a ford man through and through.both the L98 and the 4L turbo are excellent engines. the ford will carry more in the tray. but either way I would be happy with any of them. Yes they also came with an AUD equivalent $100,000+ pricetag too. Technology always filters down to the family car maker after prestige are done with it - you didn't expect Holden to make a profit off selling a $20,000 Commodore with touch screen and electric seats at the time did you?Both these cars are great...in contrast to zebra, I'm a Holden man...but over the years I've come to appreciate both Holden and Ford for how far they have come with the vehicles they are producing. Forum opinions are useless for this kind of thing unless there are known problems with one or the other...go test drive them both and flip a coin if you get stuck. You probably won't look back with either choice. Being the owner of a FPV and a Ford, I am a bit biased, but your choice of a BF FPV Tornado vs a new SS-V, I would get the Holden.The reaosn is the new commo has better tech than the BF. If you put a SSV and a New FG XR6Turbo ute, I would get the Ford. The Ford FG is so much nicer inside than the Holden and will also carry 1ton, be more responsive to mods (300rwkw under $3k) and if you get the ZF auto is a gearbox made in heaven. good points, I'll book in for a test drive of both later this week and we'll see how I go. it's 50/50 at the moment hahaha.. I've heard great things about that ZF gearbox too, but i'm undecided whether it'll be a manual or auto, thats the next question.. cheers for the opinions though. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5527360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macdog Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 can someone tell me what the latest model FPV made of the tornado in the BF Mk II? was it 2008? or is there some 2009's around? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5527890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad082 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 pretty sure 2008 was the last of the BF (except for wagons) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5527941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darmanin10 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 (edited) do u want a current model or a BF FPV???? the bf was produced up until 2008 Heres a BF FPV F6 Tornado and here is a Holden SS-V Redline Ute i like holdens better but i dont mind the BA-FG shape depends if u like V8 or Inlne 6 Turbos, just test drive and you will see Edited November 2, 2010 by ML73ZR Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5528222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mico Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 get an fg f6 + tune and you will see 400+hp atw, and better fuel economy Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5528274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macdog Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 do u want a current model or a BF FPV????the bf was produced up until 2008 Heres a BF FPV F6 Tornado and here is a Holden SS-V Redline Ute i like holdens better but i dont mind the BA-FG shape depends if u like V8 or Inlne 6 Turbos, just test drive and you will see Ford looks fcking tough i reckon, the pros about the SS-V redline is that it will come with everything electronic, like GPS, reverse camera, ipod and etc... I've got someone who would tune the ford too.. mean sucker once you get going. thanks for the input. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5528402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad082 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 i like both of them. i would simply have to drive them both before i bought either. i do like the thought of the turbo 6 so i would probably lean towards that. my sister in law's ex had a BA XR6T sedan (just the 240kw one with the 4 speed auto). got a flash tune off CAPA. before the flash (dead stock) he made 248hp (185kw). with the flash tune he made 299hp (222kw), but i can't remember whether that was at 9psi or 11psi. also that was a generic tune (basically a standard map with a slight tweak for the boost increase). the car was never put on the dyno for the tune or anything like that, so there would've been plenty more in it had he had a full tune done. even still, at 9psi it was pretty impressive. gave the feeling like it was holding back a lot too. you'd floor it and it would accelerate well (thanks to a buttload of torque), but you could tell the generic tune and low boost was holding it back and there was a heap more power there just waiting to be unleashed. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5528435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macdog Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 i like both of them. i would simply have to drive them both before i bought either. i do like the thought of the turbo 6 so i would probably lean towards that.my sister in law's ex had a BA XR6T sedan (just the 240kw one with the 4 speed auto). got a flash tune off CAPA. before the flash (dead stock) he made 248hp (185kw). with the flash tune he made 299hp (222kw), but i can't remember whether that was at 9psi or 11psi. also that was a generic tune (basically a standard map with a slight tweak for the boost increase). the car was never put on the dyno for the tune or anything like that, so there would've been plenty more in it had he had a full tune done. even still, at 9psi it was pretty impressive. gave the feeling like it was holding back a lot too. you'd floor it and it would accelerate well (thanks to a buttload of torque), but you could tell the generic tune and low boost was holding it back and there was a heap more power there just waiting to be unleashed. Hmmm, sounds good, what are the main differences between the FPV F6 tornado and the normal BA XR6T Ute? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5528542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFreshSoClean Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 F6 had better brakes, suspension, larger turbo and obviously more powerful (270kw rather than 240/245) Also the different body kit and better interior bits. Probably just better everything Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5529074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayuri Krab Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Really comes down to whether you want a V8 or Turbo 6... and whether you want a brand new car vs 2nd hand. Only thing I can think off is that if you are going to get one with auto transmission then the Ford's ZF 6 speed auto box has the advantage over the Holden's 6 speed auto box, from what I have read at least... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5529130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneakey pete Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Wait, people actually put stuff in the trays of those utes? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5529320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyWhoCriedWolf Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 get an fg f6 + tune and you will see 400+hp atw, and better fuel economy ^Ive heard this car, sounds fkn tough, like a very angry 26. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5529335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad082 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 oh yeah that reminded me, old mates xr6T sounds friggin tough. they do just sound like a beefier skyline. i prefer the sound of them over a skyline and most v8's. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5529410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Only problem with driving an XR6 turbo is you have that "I just bought the fastest car on the road" stigma of the atypical XR6 turbo owner. It was much worse when these cars first came out though, very reminiscent of the great midlife WRX crisis of the 90's. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5529760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffonfamily Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 The SS's sound pretty good though, especially with an exhaust. Bang for buck mods the ford will have more power, but in the end, what are you chasing?! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5529774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macdog Posted November 3, 2010 Author Share Posted November 3, 2010 The SS's sound pretty good though, especially with an exhaust. Bang for buck mods the ford will have more power, but in the end, what are you chasing?! hahaha, can't chase anthing, unless it's on the track... ute will handle like a bucket of shit though.. more for work purposes, plus tax saving too! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5530564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregor Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Easy and relatively cheap power to be had with the FPV, more so than with the holden. I'm very happy with my bf xr6t with the zf auto. One thing though you're mentioning a 2 year old fpv and a new holden? Why not compare an FG xr6t/f6 as well? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/342633-fpv-tornado-or-holden-ss-v-redline-utes/page/2/#findComment-5533367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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