2011 F1 Thread

[Marlin]

One lousy f**king goat!

[ctjet]

Massa's origianl contract extension was because Nicolas Todt is his manager. His father approved the contract, it seems, as a final fcuk you to the team before he left

He was then saved, ironically, by getting hit in the head by Rubens' rear spring back in '09. I think Di Montezemolo realised that his team would not be looked on favorably by the general public if you turfed a guy that almost died for your team

His form this year has been horrendous, and replacing him with a younger, faster more marketable guy can only bring good things for the fuzz

[mad082]

it was just clumsy on Hamilton's part (again!) - yes, at one point he was in almost to the front wheel, but then half backed out and the collision was Hamilton's front wheel on Massa's rear. Its not really an overtaking area - if you're going to do it there you really need to make it a dominant move, clearly in front. He didn't. His move relied on the other driver getting the f*&% out of his way. He had to know Massa was not going to do that!

On the other hand, I feel it was pretty deliberate from Massa - he definitely saw him going up the inside but gave him the big "f*&% you"

You know its a strange call when the pommy BBC commentators are amazed that Hamilton didn't get penalised.

massa should join a closed wheel racing category. then he can shut the door as hard as he likes and not tear wheels off, etc.

and hamo and massa need their own tv show. it would be like a young version of grumpy old men

[zebra]

NASCAR worked for Montoya.

Except when he get punched in the face by other drivers (happens quite a bit)

[Angus Smart]

NASCAR worked for Montoya.

Except when he get punched in the face by other drivers (happens quite a bit)

Gotta love the yanks and motorsport biffos

[hrd-hr30]

massa should join a closed wheel racing category. then he can shut the door as hard as he likes and not tear wheels off, etc.

gee, wonder where you came up with that idea... its not like people have been saying that about Hamilton all season or anything

[sh@un]

Hamo hasn't been door-closer; He's been door-closee

[hrd-hr30]

you might want to look back a bit further than his latest crash... he's been the one rubbing wheels with everyone like he's driving a touring car.

[sh@un]

Massa's origianl contract extension was because Nicolas Todt is his manager. His father approved the contract, it seems, as a final fcuk you to the team before he left

Toad Snr 1, Ferrari 0

[tweety bird]

Pastor will use a ninth engine in Abu Dhabi, due to damage incurred following the gearbox failure in India, he will therefore incur a subsequent 10-place grid penalty. Rubens will use a new eighth engine

can it get much worse for Williams this year?

dc commenting on sob v massa.

"I simply can't understand how Felipe could have been deemed the guilty party. As drivers we are always taught that the car behind is responsible so to my mind the stewards misinterpreted what happened,"

"I don't want to beat up on Lewis. Far from it. "I supported him in similar circumstances after Sauber's Kamui Kobayashi clipped the back of him at Spa. And after everything that has gone on over the past weeks and months he deserves a break. But in this instance I feel he was definitely the guiltier party.

"If Lewis had got that far up alongside Felipe into a tight hairpin, where the braking zone is maybe 100 metres and lasts for a few seconds, then I think Massa would have been right to give way. But heading into a fourth gear left-hander at maybe 150-160km/h? Where the braking zone lasts for one second? I don't think Massa can be held responsible."

"This isn't really about Lewis and Felipe. It could have been any two drivers. What concerns me more is the inconsistency of stewarding decisions," he continued.

"Making these types of calls is one of the real difficulties with a complex sport like Formula One, but it was almost as if they felt that - with Lewis receiving so many decisions against him this year - they were trying to redress the balance. A bit like in football when a referee sends someone off in controversial circumstances and the crowd is on his back, he is more disposed to send a player from the opposition off."

[sh@un]

can it get much worse for Williams this year?

they're currently on course for finishing the season with less than 10 points. even STR have 8 times their current total ffs.

in Latin you'd say they've had an annus horribilis

[dezz]

Spot on

[zebra]

Poor buggers...but everyone has had a shit year decade once......

[ctjet]

cool vid since theres no news

[tweety bird]

next year when Williams gets rid the cosworth and puts the renault in, it will be much better for them imo.

[sh@un]

cool video Hansel

next year when Williams gets rid the cosworth and puts the renault in, it will be much better for them imo.

and when they pry the old Brazillian out and ship the quick Finn in that's bound to help too

[tweety bird]

cool video Hansel

and when they pry the old Brazillian out and ship the quick Finn in that's bound to help too

true that.

Johnny Herbert ( driver representative on the stewards panel in India) on sob v massa.

"I know Massa was upset by our decision, but I believe we made the right call. After looking at it from different camera angles and studying all the data available to us, it was clear that Massa knew where Hamilton was before he chose to turn across him."There was nothing Hamilton could have done to avoid it. He did try to get out of the move, but it was too late and the contact was made."

[sh@un]

Seems reasonable enough

[Marlin]

Wise words from DC.

Simplistic dribble from Johnny Herbert.

[dezz]

Wise words from DC.

Simplistic dribble from Johnny Herbert.

Yep

Sounds like nothing more than the stewards defending their bad call.

What he's basically saying is that any driver coming from behind can drive up the inside, with no chance of making the corner, and the lead car who is on the racing line either has to stop and let him through, or drive right off the track so that he doesn't get t boned.