Jump to content
SAU Community

Kando Dynamics Turbo

SimonR32

By SimonR32,
in Engines & Forced Induction

 Share

Recommended Posts

Lithium Grand Master

Lithium

Posted
Posted

His comparison overlay was his low boost run

why not overlay your high boost run simon? dont want to be unfair lol

i wonder how the 3076 would go with more boost also, hmm.

More power, naturally - they certainly won't be choking at 17psi on an RB25 like that. Makes the comparison a bit difficult that the octane rating and boost level are slightly out, but I still feel the likely overall result all things being equal is the GT3076R will come on earlier, and fall over a little earlier earlier (as my opinion has been the whole time) and that looks credible from that comparison.

  • Replies 6k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

Dale FZ1
Dale FZ1

My 30DET is now running TDO6H 25G, budget build with Hybrid manifold and 50mm Turbosmart gate. Turbine is the 11 blade option with 12cm housing. Tighe camshafts correctly dialled. Track car, chasin

R31Nismoid
R31Nismoid

And r33_racer or whatever also had around that figure too? Maybe it was 380? (struggling to recall)

T04GTR
T04GTR

are theese rubbish china turbos with a badge thats made in japan?

Posted Images

GTScotT Grand Master

GTScotT

Posted
Posted

I dont necessarily believe that it would make more power, but it should in theory.

The fact is you could max the turbo at the same power level but at two different boost thresholds on two different motors. That being said its not out of the question that the unit is out of flow at 17psi, but logic suggests it has more in it (17 is a pretty low number on an RB25).

If it were an RB30 for example I wouldnt be surprised if it was hitting the power target with no more available flow at that low a PR.

All that being said I'd love to see the whick turned up, for science of course.

SimonR32 Grand Master

SimonR32

Posted
  • Author
Posted

More power, naturally - they certainly won't be choking at 17psi on an RB25 like that. Makes the comparison a bit difficult that the octane rating and boost level are slightly out, but I still feel the likely overall result all things being equal is the GT3076R will come on earlier, and fall over a little earlier earlier (as my opinion has been the whole time) and that looks credible from that comparison.

I think mine made 475hp on gate pressure (1.1bar) so not too much shy of the 488hp that 3076R made on similar boost. I think the 3076R also had more boost in the mid range but tailed off top end!

I'll try and get a print out of boost vs power for both the runs when I get a chance

Lithium Grand Master

Lithium

Posted
Posted
The fact is you could max the turbo at the same power level but at two different boost thresholds on two different motors.

No idea why you think you need to tell me this.

That being said its not out of the question that the unit is out of flow at 17psi, but logic suggests it has more in it

I think it is more or less out of the question that it would be out of flow at 17psi on a mild RB25, tbh.

GTScotT Grand Master

GTScotT

Posted
Posted

No idea why you think you need to tell me this.

I think it is more or less out of the question that it would be out of flow at 17psi on a mild RB25, tbh.

Because you and I are not the only two reading/going to read this thread.

Sometimes you need to state the obvious so that people dont assume that a 3076R has HEAPS more left in it at 17psi, coz it simply might not.

I know you are the turbo overlord, that's why I theorize with you whenever possible and ask you first before I go out on a limb with a whacky idea. Stop thinking im condescending you when im not.

Lithium Grand Master

Lithium

Posted
Posted

Because you and I are not the only two reading/going to read this thread.

Sometimes you need to state the obvious so that people dont assume that a 3076R has HEAPS more left in it at 17psi, coz it simply might not.

Ok got you, fair enough - sorry took that wrong, and agree.

I would love to see both the T67 and GT3076R taken to "all in" levels, or was the T67 maxed out in this instance?

And why was the GT3076R taken to "only" 17psi? I'm guessing that it didn't max out there...

urtwhistle Proficient

urtwhistle

Posted
Posted
you should be fine bro, that housing is an actual TD07 MHI spec item the housing Jez and Dori are having issues with is a 'drilled' TD06 3" cover. The Trust style one that never came with drill holes in it normally lol its a shame it didnt work though :(

Ahhhh cheers that makes sense. Well I guess we will have to wait and see what happens when it gets tuned next Tuesday. It will be very interesting to overlay with Simon's results as it will be the same tuner, same dyno but with a durty 30 spooling it

Lithium Grand Master

Lithium

Posted
Posted

Oh yeah, in other news I did some road tuning this weekend on a GT4 Sillycar running a built 3SGTE (268deg cams) and a GReddy TD06-20G - was making 1bar around 4300rpm from what I could tell and had a fairly solid pull to it even on the road tune... at least compared to other GT4s I've been in. I expect to get it on the dyno in the next few weeks, and we're going to go up to 25psi for the glory tune (won't be typically used at that boost level). Tuning it on a hub dyno, any guesses on what we might expect?

Roy Grand Master

Roy

Posted
Posted

Oh yeah, in other news I did some road tuning this weekend on a GT4 Sillycar running a built 3SGTE (268deg cams) and a GReddy TD06-20G - was making 1bar around 4300rpm from what I could tell and had a fairly solid pull to it even on the road tune... at least compared to other GT4s I've been in. I expect to get it on the dyno in the next few weeks, and we're going to go up to 25psi for the glory tune (won't be typically used at that boost level). Tuning it on a hub dyno, any guesses on what we might expect?

Understeer!

GTScotT Grand Master

GTScotT

Posted
Posted

A 3 inch cover on a dirty 30 with td06h...me no think so :no:

Think you might have a cooker on your hands, that's if it doesn't choke, but I am often wrong so good luck with it

only 1 way to find out. it won't be hard to change the housing to a 4" if that is the case.

Its a proper TD07S 3" anti surge housing ARTZ... specifically designed for a 25G wheel, off a big truck of some sort.

Im pretty confident it will work well.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • MBS206
      Blue slip

      By MBS206 · Posted

      Kinkstah, no, coilovers aren't illegal, especially as a bolt straight in. The illegal part will be if they're altering suspension geometry beyond factory limits, or the ride height is not legal.   Sounds like the blue slipper just didn't want to deal with any later possibility of mods appearing on the car.
    • GTSBoy
      Blue slip

      By GTSBoy · Posted

      The problem has always been that coilovers are able to be adjusted, almost at any time, to be too low. Most people who ever get/got defected for/with coilovers were actually afoul of the minimum ride height rule. So the interpretation by cops/inspectors was always that it is pointless to allow numpty to raise his coilovers and get the car inspected/cleared, then just drop them back down again as soon as they get around the corner from the inspection station.  This led to the interpretation that they were illegal unless rendered such that they can't be adjusted (ie, collars welded to the body, that sort of thing). That may or may not have ever actually been the official line, but I'm pretty sure it's not considered to be a solution these days. Coilovers themselves fall under clause 3.2 b of that manual, because they are an "installation of a variable ride height system" and they don't fit the exclusions in that clause (which point to air springs and other pneumatic adjusters). So, as per previous statements, they require engineering cert to be legal on the road. Once you have such cert, provided you do not adjust them outside the height range covered by the cert, you are OK. Without, you have an unroadworthy vehicle.
    • soviet_merlin
      Ethanol Content Sensor - Always at 11%?

      By soviet_merlin · Posted

      Here E10 is the cheapest fuel. And general advice is to not use it unless you hate your car. From what I remember it clogs up stuff in the fuel system or injectors?  With US/Canada being E10 across the board, does that mean that all fuel there is terrible?
    • Kinkstaah
      Blue slip

      By Kinkstaah · Posted

      Sorry, are coilovers ACTUALLY ILLEGAL in NSW? They aren't in Vic, as long as they retain 70% of stock travel and the car is above 100mm off the ground. Does NSW actually have a law making coilovers actually illegal? RWC/Blue Slip/Engineering people not knowing the actual f**king laws boils my blood. Demand them to point to the documentation that states a coilover is illegal. (it may exist in NSW ) Edit: I checked. They aren't. https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-02/RMS-infosheet-light-vehicle-modifications-manual-suspension-and-ride-height.pdf
    • PranK
      Blue slip

      By PranK · Posted

×
×
  • Create New...