Turbo 180Sx ! Anyone Driven One?

[Rb Liner25]

hey all,

Looking at buying a turbo Sr20det 180SX standard with exhaust,

Can anyone tell me what they go like?

how do they compare to a skyline turbo?

Cheers

[ForceFedVL]

havent driven an sr 180, but have driven a stock sr s14 and they go pretty good, nowhere near as good as an rb 180 or s14 though. cough"have one for sale" cough

[PM-R33]

A bit gutless down low but overall a good fun little car.

Really different to a Skyline.

[SKITTLES]

My bog stock, n/a Skyline just wiped the floor with a pulsar q running an SR20 with full exhaust + probably other stuff.

I've driven an SR20 powered Pulsar. It was bleh.

Dunno if the turbo ones are much better...

[leer34]

ive driven my brothers 180sx type x heaps of times. really different to driving my r34. doesnt have as much low down power as a 25 turbo, but they're a lot lighter and handle really well. i find them a lot of fun to drive. depending what car ur getting out of, u might find it a bit more uncomfortable and basic.

heaps fun and zippy car to drive and would definately get an s13 again if one came up..two thumbs up :thumbsup:

only problem is sr's sound shitty compared to rb's

[Kinkstaah]

How's a RB25 180 go then?

Better than a skyline in every way? Or is there a tradeoff

[leer34]

How's a RB25 180 go then?

Better than a skyline in every way? Or is there a tradeoff

ive never driven one, from what ive read they do go pretty hard, with the extra torque, but i believe there is a bit of a handling sacrifice with the extra weight in the front end.. still would be an awesome car to drive, love seeing some of the engines that people put into s13 chassis

[iplen]

My bog stock, n/a Skyline just wiped the floor with a pulsar q running an SR20 with full exhaust + probably other stuff.

I've driven an SR20 powered Pulsar. It was bleh.

Dunno if the turbo ones are much better...

I have driven an RB30 powered Patrol, it was pretty bleh, and yet my little RB26 Skyline goes alright... This story about street racing, although cool, is pointless.

A mate of mine has a 180 making 270+ awkw.. They are a great value bang for buck, they seem to be a bit held back from the factory with some very simple mods they will be all over any standard Skyline in a straight line. I would definately recommend it.

[ForceFedVL]

ive never driven one, from what ive read they do go pretty hard, with the extra torque, but i believe there is a bit of a handling sacrifice with the extra weight in the front end.. still would be an awesome car to drive, love seeing some of the engines that people put into s13 chassis

With a set of coils all round and cambered fronts theres no sacrifice in handling, but my rb is as far back as possible that would help a bit, but handles just as good as with the chatty ca in it.

yea they do go wicked too, I had my neo in a VL first and it flew but the engine sounded like it was working, in the 180 the 6 doesn't feel the weight of the car at all.

and the sound....need I say more

Edited January 16, 2011 by ForceFedVL

[DVS JEZ]

i am an EX silvia owner, my near stock s13 sr20det with T28 from a s15 kicked and r33 RB25DET with power fc, cooler, exh etc.

they are alot lighter than skylines, after fully building my s13 drift/drag/street car it ran 11.03 1/4mile with only 268kw.

[Birds]

My this, my that, handling this, buy my car, I just beat this etc. etc.

Yes they go well and sound like ass. Different feel, but performance wise very much on par with an R33 GTS-T.

[hrd-hr30]

I drove my 180 around standard for a couple of months before putting all the gear off my track car on it. Standard form they are nothing to write home about, but then again neither is a standard RB25 Skyline. Skyline probably just has the edge. The S13's are over-geared in stock form in my opinion. Always feel way to tall either around town or on the highway, making them more sluggish than they should be. A 4.3 diff improves things alot. Handle pretty well in standard form if its in good nick.

[syfon]

I've never driven a stock SR20 180SX, however my brother owned a CA18 180SX for 7years, and that went real hard....was making 250rwhp in a car that weighs 1100kg....very quick and nimble little car with the right power and suspension mods.

[Marcus89]

With a set of coils all round and cambered fronts theres no sacrifice in handling, but my rb is as far back as possible that would help a bit, but handles just as good as with the chatty ca in it.

yea they do go wicked too, I had my neo in a VL first and it flew but the engine sounded like it was working, in the 180 the 6 doesn't feel the weight of the car at all.

and the sound....need I say more

You know vl's and silvias are very similar in weight. Silvias ~ 1250kg vl (depending on which one) 1250~1350

[mad082]

My bog stock, n/a Skyline just wiped the floor with a pulsar q running an SR20 with full exhaust + probably other stuff.

I've driven an SR20 powered Pulsar. It was bleh.

Dunno if the turbo ones are much better...

must've been a thrashed pulsar or a shit driver, because my SSS pulsar is faster than a natro 33.

anywho, i've owned a SR20 powered turbo 180sx as well as driven a CA18 turbo 180sx. in a race situation a SR20 powered 180sx will keep up with a r33. the stock performance times are pretty much identical. mod them and i think they are pretty much the same as well.

to drive on a day to day basis they are different though. the skyline has a lot more down low and feels more like a bigger natro car, while the 180sx requires a bit more revs to get up and going. if you throw a t28 ball bearing turbo on the 180sx then that evens things up a bit. with the stock turbo on there you certainly do get more of a rush up around 4000rpm once it really starts to come on song, so you actually get more of a sensation of speed. handling wise the 180 feels more nimble, but the ride is rougher. the skyline feels smoother and more refined, but a bit less sporty.

[ForceFedVL]

You know vl's and silvias are very similar in weight. Silvias ~ 1250kg vl (depending on which one) 1250~1350

Well wasnt quite sure what the 180 weight was, jus feels alot lighter handling wise, must just be the better chassis, yea my vl was about 1300 but had alot higher gearing in it so that would explain the motor sounding like it was working. 3.08 diff ratio 2nd tapped out at 137, 180 feels a little low geared, gets up to 200 quick smart but feels like it doesnt want to do much after that

Edited January 17, 2011 by ForceFedVL

[sneakey pete]

Why on earth is everyone talking about non turbo 180's and r33's when the OP stated turbo on a number of occasions.

[mad082]

Why on earth is everyone talking about non turbo 180's and r33's when the OP stated turbo on a number of occasions.

ok i just went back through most of the posts and i can't see any reference to natro 180's or skylines. is it just because people were saying "sr20" and "rb25"? that can be refering to either turbo or natro since they didn't say DE or DET, and in the context of most of the posts they seem to be talking about turbo ones (especially when mentioning power figures of over 200hp)

[Rb Liner25]

im thinking im gunna do a Rb25 180sx, ive got the motor, gearbox, loom and computer, what else do i need and the cost of those things?

Cheers

[ForceFedVL]

dont need but would recommend 5 stud all round for the bigger brakes and wheel fitment, but like I said not a requirement, can use r33 rear hubs with handbrake setup and r33 cable, s14 front hubs and lcas (widens track a little though) with skyline brakes all round, just for a bit of wank factor, r32/A31 crossmember, r32 steel engine mount brackets I slotted mine so engine sat right back and as low as poss as bonnet hits throttlebody, gearbox yoke off skiddy, bigger radiator, couple of 12" thermos and get rid of A/C...I could keep mine cool with a/c but couldnt use it at all, much better now that its gone. also need to make up a gearbox crossmember...pretty easy really just probably will have a few teething issues.

Thats just off top of my head, been a year or so since I done mine, plenty of threads already on it though so a search should turn up some stuff, on here or nissansilvia (although ns doesnt seem to have very good info on it, full of f**kheads)

as for price try and add up all parts

prices are gold coast prices

mount brackets $100 per side

crossmember $250

rear hubs and adapter for cable $330

front hubs lcas approx $200 I think I got them for

R32 GTR brakes were $700

if you get new rotors DBA ones are $770 all round

add like 3k for all the little things you forgot about

add a couple of k for more things forgot about lol

Then double it and that will be how much it will cost

Edited January 18, 2011 by ForceFedVL