2Jz R34 Gt-R Swap

[sikmatesubwoofa]

I know I will get ALOT of hate for this especially in a Skyline Forum but how hard is a 2JZ swap while KEEPING the 4WD is the GT-R (R34). What's involved and how much money. Please don't curse at me for even talking about this but no one can deny the 2JZ is a monster. It can also be stroked to a massive 3.4 litres which would come in handy spooling those turbos and low end torque. I know RIPS NZ does RB30s and strokes them too but that aside how hard is this thing.

[sikmatesubwoofa]

Let me start the flaming for you guys.

"How could you even ask this, the RB engines are ART pure and simple mate. You're a bloody idiot for even thinking about this. They should send you to jail immediately. The RBs toast the 2JZ cheese engine and they make the Skyline pedigree and identity"

OK now that the flaming is over, start the discussion.

[Sarumatix]

Old news?

http://www.tremek.com/forum/nissan-videos/37844-r32-gtr-2jzgte-awd.html

[Hybrid905]

How much do you want for your rb26 If you are planning on selling it once it's out... Yeah I know the whole 2jz in a GTR is such a degradation to it's true nature but can't pass up the opportunity to see if I can get a good buy :-)

[.:: GimpS-R34 ::.]

Can you explain the thought process on why you want to? Also I'd prob look at a GT4 instead of a GTR to do it in..

[sikmatesubwoofa]

No way I've asked the GT4 has some chassis differences the GT-R, besides I just put a deposit down on one so yh. I love the 2JZ sound, it's one of the few I6s that sound deep and mean. It also has larger capacity potential and the power figures they make are amazing. I know of that build on Tremek, I know it's been done. I wanna know how much and what it would take, who would do it and most importantly keeping the 4WD Otherwise I'd just drop an LS3 in there (which I would never do to a GT-R). If the build is too hard and costly I'll just get Robbie Ward from RIPS NZ to build me a stroker RB30. That company really seems to know it's craft. Just check their vids on YouTube, no one builds better RB30s.

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

How about buy a Supra..?

[Bronx]

or how bout a stroker rb26/28/30 etc??? basically same displacement, better performance, sound you can get from a custom made manifold.

but bit for bit, i say the rb outdoes the 2j anyday, unless your looking at going into the 1500hp+ then there will be a bit of a diff.

rb monsters all the way

[mad082]

i love stuff like this that goes against conventional ideas (and in turn, pisses people off, lol). you would need to get a custom bell housing made up for the gearbox, unless the 2jz mates up with one of the landcruiser gearboxes, but then it's a case of trying to get that to fit in the trans tunnel. then it would just be a case of mounting the engine and hoping it has enough clearance.

rb26/30 would be a cheaper option though

[zebra]

Good luck finding a 4wd sump for the 2JZ, not to mention the 2jz turbos are on the same side as the front driveshaft.

Would be a massive nightmare of a job....so unless you have 100 large to play with I would leave the 26 in there, 26/30 is a big enough head f**k!

[syfon]

Kinda off-topic, but Jun Garage in Japan has done a twin turbo V6 350Z with an R34 GTR AWD drive-train.....

[sikmatesubwoofa]

100k?!! Now way i would rather get a RIPS built engine then. I was thinking of the OS Giken RB315 but the price is crazy and the RB30s can be stroked for more displacement so that's not an option either.

So I guess this is a stupid expensive job that won't yield a result much more than what the RB can do.

(OO) SKYLINE (OO), the Skyline is NO DOUBT the better car, the Supra can't even compete but the 2JZ might be the better engine. Still not worth the trouble.

[GTRsean]

Both 6 speeds in supra and R34 are getrags, so I'm sure you could use the front end of one and the back of the other to bolt up the transfer case.

Alloy custom sump made up with the gtr front diff.

Single turbo and some clever pipework?

I'd end up doing a 30 bottom end or a nissan VK56 v8 if I had the money and chance lol.

[mad082]

Good luck finding a 4wd sump for the 2JZ, not to mention the 2jz turbos are on the same side as the front driveshaft.

Would be a massive nightmare of a job....so unless you have 100 large to play with I would leave the 26 in there, 26/30 is a big enough head f**k!

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha. biggest over estimate ever. take a zero off your estimate and it would be much more accurate.

front dirve shaft wouldn't be an issue with a high mount turbo. just get a custom made sump (or take to the stock one with a hammer, LOL) or see if a sump from a cruise or something like that would fit.

[NISMO]

Can i ask why?

If you've got nothing better to do and cash burning a hole in your wallet, all the power to you and go for it.

On the other hand, if you want something specific from the car - track car, drag car etc etc, what is it about a 2j that you think the RB can't handle/do?

Option 1 keep RB and spend money sorting it

Option 2 pay money for 2j, pay for transplant and still have an engine no where near as good as option 1 for the same coin.

I just don't get it?

Oh and yes i live teh RB, but my thinking would be the same the other way around. Would never consider puutting an Rb in a supra. Not because they're not good, but because the 2j is fine.

[Sarumatix]

Was talking to a friend re the gearboxes, forgetting AWD for 1 second, even the RWD gearboxes are _totally_ different between different models of getrag, it isn't like you can just swap bell housings with these things.

[Mr Eps]

i agree with NISMO / bobby - i dont *get* it..

it doesn't go against convention... it would cost soooo much ridiculous money...

why don't you get a supra? or an aristo?

and keep your GTR?

have two cars?

i just don't /get/ this.

there is however an AWD toyota soarer with a stroked 2JZ.. 1000hp i beleive

...buuuuuut it's useless as a car... food for thought

[RB25PWR]

Sooooo this is like buying an ice-cream cone from baskin robbins then getting the actual ice-cream from wendys. I don't see the point either tbh.

But hey if you want to do it and you have the cash to throw around I don't see why not.

Or is this a school holidays post?

[PM-R33]

I am all for one for crazy engine swaps, but this one I don't get.

It aint different enough to outlay the costs involved. Replacing a twin turbo Nissan 6 cylinder with a Toyota twin turbo 6 cylinder...

[Spark911]

I agree with Phil as above. The LS3 option might get alot of people screaming blasphemy but f*ck....different much?!