Vic Wasteland Thread

[Mohsen]

The hate I have for those vw pieces of shit...

[Leroy Peterson]

someone should rock up in an interceptor, cause it sounds good but looks shit. that'll teach em

[arcenite]

there're so many vw's on the road nowadays, it's becoming the cheapest way to have a feel of "prestige" vehicles. ugh.

[Sunkist]

Vw is far from prestige. Euro maybe? But does not come close to prestige.

They're seriously shit. Sitting their reving their engines like heroes. One of the r36 was doing it with chunks of blue smoke. People were clapping saying its awesome. Wut?

[arcenite]

Precisely, but everyone who owns one thinks that they've got themselves a good european car(owing to the fact that VW group owns audi as well so their engines have some similarities) compared to all the other "inferior" japanese "cheaply" made garbage. The look on their faces when you tell them you own a skyline says it all.

Vw's have become the affordable european car and in general people tend to associate a "prestige value" with euro vehicles.

[Sunkist]

Nicks one off here is fine. Car sits low but does have wheels that sit out of the guard. But these ones today were just shit lol

[arcenite]

Yeah and they get it apr tuned and lean the shit out of the car to get more power, thinking that it's "hidden" potential only to end up with a ticking time bomb. I love it when they always say "My fuel economy has improved after the tune and I get loads more power! Awesome!"

[Birds]

VW are hardly shit!

[arcenite]

It's not the car but the general impression of the public that pisses me off because imports are far from shit

[TiTAN]

a friend put it brilliantly, VW make cars that are beautifully engineered out of the cheapest materials.

[arcenite]

a friend put it brilliantly, VW make cars that are beautifully engineered out of the cheapest materials.

[Buraz]

Hmm had imports most my life and still do, love them to bits. Also have a vw gti infront of my house and I can't exactly see how it's shit or cheaply made. It's far from prestige but it ain't shit either.

And dude the apr tune just leaning the shit out of it to make power. I can see the hatred and all but come on!!!

[Birds]

a friend put it brilliantly, VW make cars that are beautifully engineered out of the cheapest materials.

I find this hard to believe

You don't have any friends

[TiTAN]

Hmm had imports most my life and still do, love them to bits. Also have a vw gti infront of my house and I can't exactly see how it's shit or cheaply made. It's far from prestige but it ain't shit either.

And dude the apr tune just leaning the shit out of it to make power. I can see the hatred and all but come on!!!

friend wasnt saying they are shit, he was saying that the engineers do a great job of making cheap components feel nicer/more expensive than they are, but at the end of the day, they are still cheap materials.

[TiTAN]

I find this hard to believe

You don't have any friends

your words, they cut me deep.

[Buraz]

friend wasnt saying they are shit, he was saying that the engineers do a great job of making cheap components feel nicer/more expensive than they are, but at the end of the day, they are still cheap materials.

Of course, what manufacturer isn't trying to save money and use cheaper materials, they all do it!! I wasn't aiming my comment directly at you anyway.

[Lottery]

VW VR6 hatch was on my list before buying the R33. Looks like a cheap performance hatch, but heard the reliability isn't great.

[PENGUYEN]

Wtf, so many new people.

[Leroy Peterson]

jelly? golf the new civic?

SAU has been in people's faces a lot this year I think. not surprising people see what the fuss is

[arcenite]

Hmm had imports most my life and still do, love them to bits. Also have a vw gti infront of my house and I can't exactly see how it's shit or cheaply made. It's far from prestige but it ain't shit either.

And dude the apr tune just leaning the shit out of it to make power. I can see the hatred and all but come on!!!

The problem is individuals owning a VW as far as those whom I know love to stick their noses in the air and associate it as a "prestige" and therefore better which is generally not the case. In addition to the tuning etc. made to the engine and thinking that they have superior performance/reliability as opposed to japanese cars, assuming that you're not trashing the shit out of your jap car.

Regarding the leaning out thing, it's because they made it readily available and marketed it and made it mainstream, people don't realise the harm they are doing to their cars and take them to a VW service centre which are probably going to use sub-par oils/fluids that are not made for the increase in power obtained from the aggressive tune, not to forget, stock internals.

Anything above 227 hp (not much room to play with) from a stock GTI engine is going to cause problems, APR stage 1 gets you 254 hp, way above the limit for the stock engine. The Audi TTS which has 265 hp has the same 2.0L I4 engine reinforced from factory, if the engineers from Audi thinks that a reinforced engine is required to take that sort of horsepower, what makes you think that APR's claims that they are tuning it within the limits of a stock GTI engine without any reinforcements are true? Furthermore, every 2.0L i4 engine from VW that produces more or equal to 169kw's of power comes with reinforcements made to the internals. I think their engineers know what's good for their own engines and what isn't.

4th paragraph from: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2010-audi-tts-road-test-review highlights the reinforcement of the engine internals from the 2.0L i4 engine to accommodate the increase in power from the tune/turbo upgrade.

But meh, at the end of the day, I just hate it when people judge you for driving a japanese car when they drive a european one. It's not the car, just the driver's that reek of elitism that annoys me , and my advice to any potential/current GTI owners, please just keep the engine stock or face reliability issues down the road, unless you're going to reinforce the internals then go crazy!!

Edit:

jelly? golf the new civic?

SAU has been in people's faces a lot this year I think. not surprising people see what the fuss is

Yes it is xD polo's too are pretty affordable hatches too nowadays (plus it's european ) , good for transporting stuff around

Edited June 9, 2013 by arcenite