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probably worth more than your D1R's

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The problem is individuals owning a VW as far as those whom I know love to stick their noses in the air and associate it as a "prestige" and therefore better which is generally not the case. In addition to the tuning etc. made to the engine and thinking that they have superior performance/reliability as opposed to japanese cars, assuming that you're not trashing the shit out of your jap car.

Regarding the leaning out thing, it's because they made it readily available and marketed it and made it mainstream, people don't realise the harm they are doing to their cars and take them to a VW service centre which are probably going to use sub-par oils/fluids that are not made for the increase in power obtained from the aggressive tune, not to forget, stock internals.

Anything above 227 hp (not much room to play with) from a stock GTI engine is going to cause problems, APR stage 1 gets you 254 hp, way above the limit for the stock engine. The Audi TTS which has 265 hp has the same 2.0L I4 engine reinforced from factory, if the engineers from Audi thinks that a reinforced engine is required to take that sort of horsepower, what makes you think that APR's claims that they are tuning it within the limits of a stock GTI engine without any reinforcements are true? Furthermore, every 2.0L i4 engine from VW that produces more or equal to 169kw's of power comes with reinforcements made to the internals. I think their engineers know what's good for their own engines and what isn't.

4th paragraph from: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2010-audi-tts-road-test-review highlights the reinforcement of the engine internals from the 2.0L i4 engine to accommodate the increase in power from the tune/turbo upgrade.

But meh, at the end of the day, I just hate it when people judge you for driving a japanese car when they drive a european one. It's not the car, just the driver's that reek of elitism that annoys me :P , and my advice to any potential/current GTI owners, please just keep the engine stock or face reliability issues down the road, unless you're going to reinforce the internals :thumbsup: then go crazy!! :banana:

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Yes it is xD polo's too are pretty affordable hatches too nowadays (plus it's european :rofl2:) , good for transporting stuff around :yes:

Seriously cbf responding to any of that. Im not here to argue. A lot of work went into that post ;)
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the issue is never the HP, its the torque.

limiting torque during the lower/mid rpm band and then increasing it in the upper rev band can do wonders for keeping a not so tough bottom end alive while still giving you a look at me hp figure.

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Seriously cbf responding to any of that. Im not here to argue. A lot of work went into that post ;)

Don't tune your GTI and don't be like one of them snobbish GTI owners :P but it's a cute little hatch no doubt. Buuut meh.. it's a girls car imo, but that's just me! :laugh:

the issue is never the HP, its the torque.

limiting torque during the lower/mid rpm band and then increasing it in the upper rev band can do wonders for keeping a not so tough bottom end alive while still giving you a look at me hp figure.

Anything above 169kw and 300nm then :woot:

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VW's are probably not shit, but their owners are making them shit. And their owners that are making them shit are retarded.

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Don't tune your GTI and don't be like one of them snobbish GTI owners :P but it's a cute little hatch no doubt. Buuut meh.. it's a girls car imo, but that's just me! :laugh:

crapping out at a mere 300nm is fairly pez. tbh, thats not a lot of safety fat left in it by VW, again its engineered to do the job and not much beyond.

which is likely the same issue they are running into with the DSG boxes, yes they work, but if its engineered with the same slim margins any increase or abuse/hard usage starts having a big impact on how long it will last.

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I drive a vw jetta, I've never thought of it as a prestige car...just don't get that feeling, especially because it's a fwd tractor and the interior is so plain imo. :/ if i had the choice i'd take my 34 back in an instant.

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Honda is best.

Sadly the s2000 was shunned and people would rather be seen in a z4 :ermm:

crapping out at a mere 300nm is fairly pez. tbh, thats not a lot of safety fat left in it by VW, again its engineered to do the job and not much beyond.

which is likely the same issue they are running into with the DSG boxes, yes they work, but if its engineered with the same slim margins any increase or abuse/hard usage starts having a big impact on how long it will last.

Yeah those dsg boxes are a no-no if you're going to drive it hard, they wear out pretty quickly, then you'll have to deal with the cost of european parts... :unsure:

Edit: I hate it when people say, "It's just a Honda" when they refer to the s2000 :rant: when comparing it to the z4.

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