Proxy Kill Switch

[c34Florry]

Ive recently been thinking about putting a killswitch in my stagea. Ive sat in the drivers seat and picked out 5 places I would look for one if I was to steal a car amd can't think of another convenient place to put it so im now thinking of a proximity sensor (like an rfid key tag amd a unit under the dash or similar wired up to the fuel pump). Has anyone done this or seen this done before? Also need it time delayed or run through the turbo timer. Does anyone know of a reputable alarm specialist in Adelaide that might be able to help out with putting my words into action? As I have a poor history of auto elecricianism.. Any help or guidance would be much appreciated

[C4a0s]

Chris Rogers might be able to help u out but he's in brisbane...

[c34Florry]

  On 24/03/2014 at 8:17 AM, C4a0s said:

Chris Rogers might be able to help u out but he's in brisbane...

Cheers for the tip bro. Was kinda hoping for something a little closer to home though haha

[Chris Rogers]

you are really talking a custom solution. forget traditional car audio shops..

[89CAL]

Random, but my old VL had a screw you had to hold your finger on while turning the key. I can PM the location to you of where it was, probably shouldnt announce it on here

As for how it was done... I have no idea. Screw with a wire off to somewhere. Car came like that so never bothered to check it out. It didnt have an alarm so must have just been utilising the stock electrics etc. Not sure it would even be an option on the VL.

It let everything turn on but the starter

[c34Florry]

I thhought it would have been like an rfid ignition system except hooked up to fuel pump. I still want to use the key to start

Edited March 26, 2014 by staglover

[0zhiph0p]

I got offered a similar system key pass over a sensor behind the dash when i got my alarm installed, from memory might have been a viper alarm

[KiwiRS4T]

  On 24/03/2014 at 7:44 AM, staglover said:

Ive recently been thinking about putting a killswitch in my stagea. Ive sat in the drivers seat and picked out 5 places I would look for one if I was to steal a car amd can't think of another convenient place to put it so im now thinking of a proximity sensor (like an rfid key tag amd a unit under the dash or similar wired up to the fuel pump). Has anyone done this or seen this done before? Also need it time delayed or run through the turbo timer. Does anyone know of a reputable alarm specialist in Adelaide that might be able to help out with putting my words into action? As I have a poor history of auto elecricianism.. Any help or guidance would be much appreciated

This looks like a handy device. It suggests putting it in the fuel pump line but you could use in a number of ways to disable the car:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=704435597

[Dan_J]

^ that could be so handy...... i wounder how frustrated one would be if the remote fails and you cant get to it due to stealthy positioning

[Hanaldo]

The reason I don't like that ^ is it's another remote that you need to carry around. And either you're going to put that on your keys, which ultimately defeats the purpose because most cars are stolen via the keys; or you need to have it separate to your keys, in which case where do you keep it?

I would prefer a completely separate device, and I don't care if it takes me 5 minutes to start my car every time I drive it. The harder it is for me to start the car, the harder it will be for any potential thieves.

[89CAL]

Thats what I liked about mine. There was no need to carry anything extra, no button, was just (AFAIK) earthing out a circuit to enable the start circuit

It was probably just the earth side of the starter signal (from the key) to the screw so it had no earth till you put your hand on the screw and then on the key (grounded through the key switch) then the car would start. If you didnt know where the screw was, the car wouldnt start.

BUT this way you could still bridge the solenoid on the starter moter and get it going etc. So its not the best way to do it. But you might be able to do something similiar with the fuel pump circuit.

This is just an idea, not sure it would work in a skyline, and it might not be what you are looking for

[533 RYC]

  On 24/03/2014 at 7:44 AM, staglover said:

Ive recently been thinking about putting a killswitch my stagea. Ive sat in the drivers seat and picked out 5 places I would look for one if I was to steal a car amd can't think of another convenient place to put it so im now thinking of a proximity sensor (like an rfid key tag amd a unit under the dash or similar wired up to the fuel pump). Has anyone done this or seen this done before? Also need it time delayed or run through the turbo timer. Does anyone know of a reputable alarm specialist in Adelaide that might be able to help out with putting my words into action? As I have a poor history of auto elecricianism.. Any help or guidance would be much appreciated

First things first, In the name of security, get rid of the turbo timer. They give thieving f#%ks the three wires needed to start your car!!!

In regards to kill switches, many years ago in a car I don't own anymore, I fitted one in the right hand air vent (between dash & drivers door) about 2 1\2" down the duct. It ment I had a 3" long thin bit of aluminum on my key ring. 3 attempts were made to steal it, but they never got it (it was a near mint XC Fairmont 378 stroker, top loader, 9" yada yada yada).

[enka]

  On 27/03/2014 at 4:49 AM, Hanaldo said:

The reason I don't like that ^ is it's another remote that you need to carry around. And either you're going to put that on your keys, which ultimately defeats the purpose because most cars are stolen via the keys; or you need to have it separate to your keys, in which case where do you keep it?

I would prefer a completely separate device, and I don't care if it takes me 5 minutes to start my car every time I drive it. The harder it is for me to start the car, the harder it will be for any potential thieves.

the tag can be replaced by smartphone, it it acts like an rfid device

is it similar to what viper has..?

Edited April 1, 2014 by enka

[Chris Rogers]

DEI is not a RFID device. its a APP linked to a GSM phone linked to a server.

[c34Florry]

Forgot about this thread.. something im still really keen on..

  On 27/03/2014 at 12:24 PM, 533 RYC said:

First things first, In the name of security, get rid of the turbo timer. They give thieving f#%ks the three wires needed to start your car!!!

Noted and have since done so.

  On 26/03/2014 at 1:33 AM, Chris Rogers said:

you are really talking a custom solution. forget traditional car audio shops..

Ill have a hunt around for specialist I s'pose

As far as 'another remote', im imagining something like a supercheap club keytag sized myki thing that when within five meters of a receiver in cabin turns the immobilizer off. Start car like usual. Outside the radius, immobilizer on.

  On 26/03/2014 at 9:25 AM, 0zhiph0p said:

key pass over a sensor behind the dash

this could work Edited July 23, 2014 by c34Florry

[r31slpr]

I worked on a commodore that had a push button, to a second immobiliser I guess, under the carpet on the tunnel. It was a prick to find and get the car started even if you knew where it was.

[Chris Rogers]

Those you can buy already.