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Kisuu_Buta Community Regular

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An interesting comparison of the newest Hypercars being offered by Ferrari with its LaFerrari, Mclaren its P1 and the Porsche 918 Sypder.

(Apologies for the multiple posts, it won't allow me to embed more than two video's in one post?)

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/laferrari-vs-mclaren-p1-vs-porsche-918-spyder

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Cowboy1600 Grand Master

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The LaFerrari sounds incredible.

Chris Harris is the only person worth watching, however. How those other f**king boring numpties got that gig is beyond me. What a pack of staid, boring dream boats.

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The LaFerrari sounds incredible.

Chris Harris is the only person worth watching, however. How those other f**king boring numpties got that gig is beyond me. What a pack of staid, boring dream boats.

I have always had the impression that Steve Sutcliffe gets paid to say certain things otherwise he doesn't get to drive super expensive cars. The way he constantly gushes on about cars he is reviewing seems fake to me.

me_larr Community Regular

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Talk shit about the car you're reviewing and get the banstick from the manufacturer...simple.

Politics as much as $$$ have got plenty to do with the comments in the reviews I reckon.

IIRC, didn't Chris Harris get the banstick from Ferrari?

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Talk shit about the car you're reviewing and get the banstick from the manufacturer...simple.

Politics as much as $$$ have got plenty to do with the comments in the reviews I reckon.

IIRC, didn't Chris Harris get the banstick from Ferrari?

He shit canned them for their pre-test development and sending ring in's to a group test. Apparently they always send two cars to a group test, with explicit instructions to use one for straight line and one for track testing. And they send a teat of engineers along too. The other companies just hand over a car and politely ask for it not to be crashed. Good on him for calling their bullshit and well done Ferrari for screwing your actual customers (who don't get the cars the tests lead them to believe they are purchasing) and doing what you can to damage your brand.

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This is the article where he roasts Ferrari ; http://jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins

Truth be told most big manufacturers must spend some time making sure the car is sorted before giving them out to journo's. New pads/rotors, clutch, fluids and fresh tyres etc I have seen both video's and articles where the car used for the road test and track test are changed. Maybe not to the same degree Ferrari have employed in that example. You can't really blame Ferrari for wanting there car to look good, but I do agree lying about real world performance is wrong and misleading.

For all his anger at Ferrari for that behaviour it doesn't make him not want to own one! ...http://jalopnik.com/5937349/why-did-chris-harris-buy-a-ferrari-599

All I really care about is that he gives the best reviews and insights into cars I’ll prob never drive! Watch him drifting a F12 Berlinetta with Ferrari's blessing I might add?? Figure that one out?

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Lot's of options at this end of the ultra rich market, I started with the big three for obvious reasons. But there are definitely some pretty crazy cars available if money is no object...

The Koenigsegg Agera R

Hennessey Venom

Trex Grand Master

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This is the article where he roasts Ferrari ; http://jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins

Truth be told most big manufacturers must spend some time making sure the car is sorted before giving them out to journo's. New pads/rotors, clutch, fluids and fresh tyres etc I have seen both video's and articles where the car used for the road test and track test are changed. Maybe not to the same degree Ferrari have employed in that example. You can't really blame Ferrari for wanting there car to look good, but I do agree lying about real world performance is wrong and misleading.

For all his anger at Ferrari for that behaviour it doesn't make him not want to own one! ...http://jalopnik.com/5937349/why-did-chris-harris-buy-a-ferrari-599

All I really care about is that he gives the best reviews and insights into cars Ill prob never drive! Watch him drifting a F12 Berlinetta with Ferrari's blessing I might add?? Figure that one out?

It was a good read. An eye opener into how far Ferrari will go to win some numbers games.

I know a lot of the top manufacturers have a strong grasp on the media and how their company is displayed, after all why wouldn't you? They hold the power to which media outlet is to host their next 'big thing' and being of such prestige and class they have a firm grasp for years to come, it doesn't matter what some media outlets say.

Reminds me of some of the traders on this website, they have immunity from dodgy products because they give to the forum, the same as Ferrari give media outlets money in the form of listeners readers and viewers.

ferrari's time of 2 seconds faster 0-100mph vs the typical owner of the same car is not so shocking to me. Again who is going to be the whistle blower. Understand that all sports cars are different, even if they are the same make and model, and none will be bang dead on with one another.

I have to say 2 seconds is a lot of lost time and Ferrari can't cover that up.

Don't bother with the 'tyres' debate. We all know manufacturers and dealerships have different options when it comes to what grade tyre you would like.

Ferrari seem like the typical over achiever in the automotive world. You know, the one who breaks all the rules to get ahead, but cry like a 2 year old child when things don't go their way.

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Nothing new with car companies being generous with performance times. There's certainly question over the r35 gtr lap time around the ring after porsche went and bought one from a dealer, took it to the track and their driver couldn't get within 25 seconds of Nissan's claimed time.

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Nothing new with car companies being generous with performance times. There's certainly question over the r35 gtr lap time around the ring after porsche went and bought one from a dealer, took it to the track and their driver couldn't get within 25 seconds of Nissan's claimed time.

That proves it! A "claimed time" means an extra sale - even from Porsche!!! :P

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