Super Turbo

[scithe93]

hey all id probably never do this myself oh what am I saying if I had the cash to just throw around I would haha

im making this to discuse the twin charged engines, I saw a few pics and vids the other day of a vn commy with both a supercharger and turbo charger and thought it looked and sounded mean along with the fact it left anything behind it in a trail of smoke.

a rough idea of how it works was the supercharger kicked in at low rpm then in high revs after spooling up the turbo kicked in and took over.

what are your opinions on a setup like this? do you think it would be possible to do to a rb engine??

I like the idea but can think of many many things that could go wrong and even destroy the engine but what are your opinions? would you ever do this if you could afford to? cmon guys lets get the ball rolling I cant wait to read different opinions on this.

EDIT::- found the vn on facebook and its running a rb30 when I figure out how to post pics il put one up of the engine

Edited July 20, 2014 by scithe93

[wolverine]

Twin charging threads go back to 2006 or even earlier. Try the search button and/or look up username "stockmcstock".

[scithe93]

cheers wolverine il do that lol 2006 farkk that's a while ago anyways it wont let me put the pic up but if ya search aus street rides on facebook its in there haha

still would be cool and imaging a r33 skyline running that kinda setup the thing would be unstpable

[iruvyouskyrine]

Google RBxxDERT, where xx is your favourite flavour of RB.

[75coupe]

There is a whole build thread on here also that has done it, r33racer is the op from memory...

[GTSBoy]

Yuh, Stocky built the RB30 twin cam twin charged. That 30 is quite possibly the one in the VN seeing as he was trying to sell the driveline from the VL quite a while back.

There is no such thing as "kicks in" and "takes over". There's nothing sequential about these systems. They are just two compressors in series giving you the ability to work around a few problems that superchargers have and a few problems that turbos have in a way that covers up pretty much all the problems.

The only problem becomes fitting it all in.

[Dale FZ1]

Youtube search "Lancia Delta Integrale S4 Bergrennen"

and similar with "Toivonen Integrale S4"

besides the performance, check how they fitted all the mechanicals.

That work was done with the resources of a factory and a big testing schedule.

[89CAL]

I drive a twin charged car pretty much daily

Jealous yet?

[GTSBoy]

I drive a twin charged car pretty much daily

Jealous yet?

No. VAG = do not want.

[wolverine]

I love VAG

(are we talking about the same thing?)

[89CAL]

No. VAG = do not want.

Lol what?

[GTSBoy]

No. No we're not!

VAG = Volkswagen Audi Group. I don't like anything they do.

The other Vag I'm fine with.

[89CAL]

Lol yeah. It's not my car so doesn't worry me don't think I'd own one. Was looking at Audi's but changed my mind after the way VW seem to operate

[Dale FZ1]

That VW didn't run with super/turbo on the Golf R says something.

I tried the 118 TSI but prefer the 103TDI,

[wolverine]

No. No we're not!

VAG = Volkswagen Audi Group. I don't like anything they do.

The other Vag I'm fine with.

Yeah I know but I had to go there.

[scithe93]

some of them look real nice would be awesome to do to the 33 but I think id rather something twin turbo over twin charged haha

89cal nah not really jealouse could imagine the suffering of fuel could never drive one as a daily lol

[XRATED]

No. No we're not!

VAG = Volkswagen Audi Group. I don't like anything they do.

The other Vag I'm fine with.

My old boss just kept getting sand in his VAG.....

...so we told him to stop taking his rs4s to the beach.

[89CAL]

some of them look real nice would be awesome to do to the 33 but I think id rather something twin turbo over twin charged haha

89cal nah not really jealouse could imagine the suffering of fuel could never drive one as a daily lol

I'm talking about a VW Polo GTI here, 1.4L twin charged.

Still does 6L/100km when you baby it or go on the highway. Even driving spirited every now and then it still uses far less fuel then mine. Its nice to drive, but I'd rather drive my car most days. It's just nice to have the DSG in auto and cruise around when I'm lazy to play with button clutches etc.

[scithe93]

6l/100k go the polo im just glad to be in a skyline last car I had beside the 31 was a ef falcon lucky to get 14l/100k in that does anyone know the average fuel usage of a r33?

[89CAL]

I CAN get 12L/100km out of mine, but usually get around 14L/100

This is around town, havent really had it on a highway or at highway speed for a longish journey