re34perGTT Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Hi, I'm upgrading my trans cooler and I'm wondering if r34's have a thermostat on them already so I can just take the hoses off the stock one and put them on the new one. If it doesn't have one what would you guys recommend for one ? Preferably something not too pricey.. Also is the plumbing for the trans cooler just 1 line from the box to the cooler then 1 line back or is it connected to anything else ? Any help would be greatly appreciated ! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty nm35 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 No thermostat stock, generally you need to leave the fluid going through the radiator on a road car. I run a $30 inline transmission thermostat off ebay, the blue ones. You will likely see them if you look through. They are 10mm fittings so you may need to muck around with the 8mm lines to get it to fit. A trans cooler can never be too large, and it needs to be after the radiator outlet and thermostat. You will need to work out which line is pumping out and which is the return without making a massive mess preferably. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7508950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSBoy Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 R34s have a small external trans cooler. I would expect that there's no thermostat involved because it's not very large. You could probably double or triple its size on a car being worked hard without too much problem, unless you end up driving it around gently in cold weather. The question of whether you actually CAN run a thermostat in that line is another problem. I don't know if the cooler line runs the total flow of some circuit or if it's just a bypass. If it's not a bypass in it's own right, then a thermostat in that line would need to have a bypass in it to return flow when closed. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7509005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiRS4T Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Hi, I'm upgrading my trans cooler and I'm wondering if r34's have a thermostat on them already so I can just take the hoses off the stock one and put them on the new one. If it doesn't have one what would you guys recommend for one ? Preferably something not too pricey.. Also is the plumbing for the trans cooler just 1 line from the box to the cooler then 1 line back or is it connected to anything else ? Any help would be greatly appreciated ! Something else - normally the radiator . This helps to bring the auto up to temp quickly from a cold start. I would guess temps are normally high where you live so a thermostat may not be necessary. If you are keen you could install a temp gauge for a while and see what you get. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7509036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboedsloth Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 No need for an inline thermostat with autos unless you live where it is really cold If you do fit one make sure it has a bypass until it warms up otherwise you'll starve the rear planetry of oil and damage it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7509058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trex Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Fitted my stand alone davies craig 679 and driven it with no problems in 6-10deg weather every morning. It is placed behind the grill and takes roughly 10min for the trans to go into lockup if driving like a normal person on 60-80k roads. When the weather starts to get colder if I notice any adverse affecs I will add a plate that can sit over it and shield it from air. It got rid of all flairing inbetween gears and shifts better than before. (Could just be masking another problem) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7509076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
re34perGTT Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 Thanks for all the help and suggestions guys. But as this is a daily and gets used in mornings when it's fairly cold I'd like to be able to get it to temperature quicker and I'm not a big fan of cooler covers. Also since I'm doing a shift kit, trans temp gauge and trans cooler I'd like to do it properly and add the thermostat while everything's pulled off. I'm slightly confused with the plumbing of the stock cooler but. Is it not just a straight line from the tranny to the cooler then a line straight back to the tranny ? Or does it connect to the Intercooler as well somewhere along the line ? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7509359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trex Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Line from the trans to cooler back to trans works fine. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7509378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSBoy Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Or does it connect to the Intercooler as well somewhere along the line ? Yes, you are confused. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7509391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiRS4T Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 There is (or should be) a connection to a heat exchanger in the bottom of the radiator (not the intercooler). Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7509405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
re34perGTT Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 Ah that's what I wasn't sure about. Cheers for that guys. Also cheapest I can find an external thermal bypass is like $50+. Is there any thermostat from Supercheap or something I could use ? If so what one would you recommend and does anyone know what's the minimum temperature for safe performance and for the thermostat to open up ? Cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7509406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty nm35 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 This is the one I use, $30us or there abouts. Here is a link I found. http://www.bulkpart.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=2&Product_Code=708-4739&Category_Code=tru-cool-hd&Product_Count=7 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7510158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
re34perGTT Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 Cheers for that Also reading the description the Inputs and outputs seem a little small in diamiter. Won't that restrict flow? And while I'm here I'm looking to install an oil temp gauge and I need a housing for the temperature sensor. Would you happen to know where to get one ? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7510489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSBoy Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 You want bigger lines than 3/8 on a trans cooler? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7510584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboedsloth Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 weld a bung into the sump for a sensor Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7510608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
re34perGTT Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 The hosing for the Davies Craig kit I bought looks pretty wide so I just wasn't sure. And good idea with the bung on the sump but I'd like to do that as a last resort Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7511015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSBoy Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 And good idea with the bung on the sump but I'd like to do that as a last resort Sandwich plate then. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7511068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trex Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 The hosing for the Davies Craig kit I bought looks pretty wide so I just wasn't sure. And good idea with the bung on the sump but I'd like to do that as a last resort 3/8 is loose on the 679. They are thick lines, that's all. I believe Scotty was talking about a temp gauge in the last auto thread, using a sensor adaptor for the 3/8 lines. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7511183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinkstaah Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Can confirm, Scotty made a housing for a sensor for me that sits in the return line. Works a treat. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7511253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
re34perGTT Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 How much did that cost you ? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455375-r34-gtt-auto-trans-thermostat-help/#findComment-7511405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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