Vic Wasteland Thread - 15.0

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

What other promises?

Almost all of them?

Part of politics in Australia is having policies that are actually good enough to get through, not just coming up with whatever you feel like and complaining when it is blocked.

[Birds]

It's sometimes war, sometimes poverty, sometimes government persucution, sometimes other things, sometimes a combination.

You have this rosey view that anyone can be successful if they work for it, but you don't seem to be able to comprehend that some people aren't simply born into luck like you were.

No one, puts their kids in a boat if they don't need to. You wouldn't go somewhere else you would be likely to live in poverty, especially given you are going to start again with nothing.

I don't know about that, in a world where western countries have kids just to get handouts and in some countries children are born and sold into slavery, it would not surprise me if some are used as tools, possessions and pathways to better lives. I think some would get on board legitimately not understanding how risky it is getting here and the slim shady chances of getting in.

Slimmer now.

[Birds]

Almost all of them?

Part of politics in Australia is having policies that are actually good enough to get through, not just coming up with whatever you feel like and complaining when it is blocked.

That's a fair and true statement statement to make, but IMO does not mean they haven't tried to keep the promises they went to election with, or that they have necessarily back flipped on issues / stances (the traditional politician's path to breaking promises).

[emts]

this all i think of with our current pollis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UthMHjoNyjA

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

That's every 2 party system world wide unfortunately

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

I don't know about that, in a world where western countries have kids just to get handouts and in some countries children are born and sold into slavery, it would not surprise me if some are used as tools, possessions and pathways to better lives. I think some would get on board legitimately not understanding how risky it is getting here and the slim shady chances of getting in.

Slimmer now.

I'm not going to say that's not possible but it would be the EXTREME minority

[Birds]

Extreme to the max?

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Dude

[alr33x]

It's sometimes war, sometimes poverty, sometimes government persucution, sometimes other things, sometimes a combination.

You have this rosey view that anyone can be successful if they work for it, but you don't seem to be able to comprehend that some people aren't simply born into luck like you were.

No one, puts their kids in a boat if they don't need to. You wouldn't go somewhere else you would be likely to live in poverty, especially given you are going to start again with nothing.

Your literally talking about economic refugees it's completely different and don't think for a second they don't have other choices those crappy boats they put a fortune to get on.

I won't for one second feel guilty about being fortunate enough to be in this country.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

I'm taking about refugees in general. Of course they don't have a choice, do you think the preference boats over planes because they like the sea air?

No one is suggesting you should feel guilty, just that perhaps you could look at it from their perspective, rather than your priveliged white Australian middle class perspective. They aren't here to steal your job and f**k up your life, they are here because they are desperate to have a better life themselves. If the situation was reversed you'd do the same for your family... any of us would.

[Birds]

Dude

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

My boneitis made me click on the wrong image

[dezz]

I'm taking about refugees in general. Of course they don't have a choice, do you think the preference boats over planes because they like the sea air?

No one is suggesting you should feel guilty, just that perhaps you could look at it from their perspective, rather than your priveliged white Australian middle class perspective. They aren't here to steal your job and f**k up your life, they are here because they are desperate to have a better life themselves. If the situation was reversed you'd do the same for your family... any of us would.

Middle class?

Brace yourself

[alr33x]

I'm taking about refugees in general. Of course they don't have a choice, do you think the preference boats over planes because they like the sea air?

No one is suggesting you should feel guilty, just that perhaps you could look at it from their perspective, rather than your priveliged white Australian middle class perspective. They aren't here to steal your job and f**k up your life, they are here because they are desperate to have a better life themselves. If the situation was reversed you'd do the same for your family... any of us would.

Legitimate refugees yes. Economic refugees no.

Middle class come on brah that's a low blow

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Class is defined by socioeconomic status, which in itself comprises income, education, occupation, geography etc...

You live in the west, work full time and have no higher education. Welcome to the middle bitch

[alr33x]

Lot of assumptions there chief.

[Leroy Peterson]

so... someone living in cupboard in toorak with a PhD in cross-stitching working full-time at Spotlight is living the high life?

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

I made 3.

You live in the west. You are proud of this and state it often.

You have no higher education. You are proud of this and state it often.

I'm not sure if how many hours you work these days but you have previously stated that you work hard / a lot.

2 out of 3 ain't bad unless you have moved and got a degree in the last month

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

so... someone living in cupboard in toorak with a PhD in cross-stitching working full-time at Spotlight is living the high life?

Lol not really, the geography piece is linked to how your finances are geared vs income etc.

Although a lot of places in Toorak are not a lot bigger than cupboards, hence it not being the most exxy suburb anymore.

I also dont think a PHD in cross stitching is offered.

[Rekin]

We are all middle class, nothing but pawns.