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but someone else wired my car, i think i know what im talking about.

im super curious to see how my new-age-thinking crank trigger goes. super bike CDI coils should be good for an extra 20fwkw at phillip island.

21 minutes ago, Leroy Peterson said:

there isnt anything wrong with powerfc. i retained mine for so long because it was basically the only option. i didnt have a stock ecu to put a nistune into.

but i feel i've seen the light. it shocked me earlier today to see you can still buy powerfc's brand new (for some cars).

 

ever since haltech took on motec's pay model, its hardly value for money. mind you, every time I've asked someone "why do 90% of professional motorsport teams use motec?" the answer has always been "because they're the best" *queue Tina Turner*

and whats with haltech and CAS disc issues? (i know the disc is a POS, but does it work or doesnt it?)

 

Matt do you only chime in on SAU when you feel like arguing with someone?

 

Key word being motorsport professionals...the kind of guys who have already bought everything else they can legally buy...and replace fender bolts with titanium ones because it saves 300 grams! On the street or amateurs around a track, another psi of boost or better tyres will do more for your performance!

5 minutes ago, Birds said:

Key word being motorsport professionals...the kind of guys who have already bought everything else they can legally buy...and replace fender bolts with titanium ones because it saves 300 grams! On the street or amateurs around a track, another psi of boost or better tyres will do more for your performance!

i was more pointing at: what does motec have/do that others cannot match?

8 minutes ago, Birds said:

Key word being motorsport professionals...the kind of guys who have already bought everything else they can legally buy...and replace fender bolts with titanium ones because it saves 300 grams! On the street or amateurs around a track, another psi of boost or better tyres will do more for your performance!

 

actually f**k all that stuff.

for us amateurs best way to get faster times is seat time...

 

true story.

13 minutes ago, Leroy Peterson said:

i was more pointing at: what does motec have/do that others cannot match?

I think the question we need to ask here Leroy, is why do you hate power FC so much?

10 hours ago, Birds said:

I think the question we need to ask here Leroy, is why do you hate power FC so much?

i dont hate it. I just think its poor value for money. I dont get how so many second-hand ones sell on SAU. I struggled to sell my GTiR one because nobody wants them (even though they can be used on any FWD/AWD SR20), and they're discontinued too.

They're archaic. They're from a generation of japanese products that required you to have a $2000 Defi gauge setup to monitor/display information that almost every ECU can do itself now. The Autronic I've switched to now is still pretty old-school but reading the manual and some of the parameters that can be tweaked or programmed is pretty exciting.

I think I read someone here describing a PowerFC as a stock ECU with a piggyback unit built inside it. Sounds pretty accurate to me. 

19 hours ago, Leroy Peterson said:

whats your budget? that kind of stuff isnt cheap... LED and halo rings is one thing, full cut-n-shut Vulcans or projectors is something else.

You chasing full-professional workshop or dont mind garage/side-project stuff?

 

damn cats running wild these days. i think the hippy should be re-introduced as a control measure.

 

Not fussed who does it, as long as its a good job.

Quotes atm are around $750 to $1k,. For a dual/quad projector setup

1 hour ago, Leroy Peterson said:

i dont hate it. I just think its poor value for money. I dont get how so many second-hand ones sell on SAU. I struggled to sell my GTiR one because nobody wants them (even though they can be used on any FWD/AWD SR20), and they're discontinued too.

They're archaic. They're from a generation of japanese products that required you to have a $2000 Defi gauge setup to monitor/display information that almost every ECU can do itself now. The Autronic I've switched to now is still pretty old-school but reading the manual and some of the parameters that can be tweaked or programmed is pretty exciting.

I think I read someone here describing a PowerFC as a stock ECU with a piggyback unit built inside it. Sounds pretty accurate to me. 

They're cheap, easy to re-sell, quick to install, most Jap specialists can tune them with a quick turn around using the same base maps for similar setups..

I think it's very much a case of don't fix what isn't broken. I don't know about you and the VIP generation, but all I need an ECU to do in my car is make the engine turn. The bells and whistles, gauges, 20 sensor inputs and antilags etc. will do sfa for the performance majority of tuned street cars and that is why PFC is still popular. The requirements of most users peaked with this product.

4 hours ago, Leroy Peterson said:

i'll be sure to recommend the PowerFC to Daz for his 1000hp street car

1000hp supra is not an average street car - no matter how you try to slice it

6 hours ago, joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo said:

For your average street car / weekend warrior you simply don't need any more than a power FC offers. Shit I didn't even bother with a hand controller

nah f**k that.
haltech FTW.
support straya.
if you dont like it, leave.
 

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