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  • 2 months later...

Update time:

Took out the floating barge shit box to Wakefield with the same tyres, same alignment just a new turbo setup and better front brakes.

Managed a 1.11.05 according to the Q-Starz. Pretty happy, my other mate (more experienced driver) did a 1.10.02 and not to mention it was his first time behind a floating pile of shit R33.

Pretty happy with the performance of these coilovers - however I sense I need some form of basic aero at the rear because I can really feel the "sloppiness" when I lift off into turn 1. Driving my mate's 180SX with a basic front splitter and a massive Voltex wing it feels so much more planted around corners albeit he actually has softer springs too.

No real warscars this time, just:

  • drove home with metal to metal rear brakes (had to shift down to stop like a mad man to reduce braking usage)
  • snapped off an exhaust bolt after I ran over a fire hydrant hose on the freaking track
  • new dead bugs and more rock chips lol

For next outing:

  • GT-R wing
  • New rear pads, will be going Intima Type-D rears to match the fronts
  • New bucket seat, my current Brix 1.5 doesn't hold enough
  • 2 weeks later...

Hey Johnny - Curious to get some more info on height adjustment if you're willing to share.

I read on their old website somewhere that they recommend adjusting the spring perch (which would effectively change the spring preload) Is this correct?

Hey Johnny - Curious to get some more info on height adjustment if you're willing to share.

I read on their old website somewhere that they recommend adjusting the spring perch (which would effectively change the spring preload) Is this correct?

yeah easy man!

yes they recommend adjusting the spring seat to adjust the height of the car.. I believe they recommend this to 1. pre load the shock so you're not always at the top of the shock stroke and 2. you won't bottom out the car.. the car would essentially hit the bump stops instead of the ground.

so the free play experienced when the car is lifted is quite normal. Japanese and decent Bilstein, KW, etc.. all have helper springs to avoid the free play/spring drupe.

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yeah easy man!

yes they recommend adjusting the spring seat to adjust the height of the car.. I believe they recommend this to 1. pre load the shock so you're not always at the top of the shock stroke and 2. you won't bottom out the car.. the car would essentially hit the bump stops instead of the ground.

so the free play experienced when the car is lifted is quite normal. Japanese and decent Bilstein, KW, etc.. all have helper springs to avoid the free play/spring drupe.

Makes sense! Thanks - Guess this is why my non base height adjustable pedders have that helper spring on it (which after 8 years is now essentially useless - They are cactus now)

Pedders = BC BR = Blitz ZZR

They're identical... however not sure if the valving is identical.

Have been in both BC BR and Pedder equipped cars and both felt harsh considering both were your run of the mill 8/6kg flavours.

MCA even advise me to get softer, but I ended up with 10/7kg but I like it very much the way it is. I've dropped both ARBs to the softest setting and utilise the stiffer springs to reduce the roll. Car feels very compliant on the track and when the dampers are clicked back for the drive back home they're honestly just as comfortable as my old Bilstein shock/spring combo (of course hitting a pot hole or running over reflectors aren't as comfortable but you get the idea).

Pedders = BC BR = Blitz ZZR

They're identical... however not sure if the valving is identical.

Have been in both BC BR and Pedder equipped cars and both felt harsh considering both were your run of the mill 8/6kg flavours.

MCA even advise me to get softer, but I ended up with 10/7kg but I like it very much the way it is. I've dropped both ARBs to the softest setting and utilise the stiffer springs to reduce the roll. Car feels very compliant on the track and when the dampers are clicked back for the drive back home they're honestly just as comfortable as my old Bilstein shock/spring combo (of course hitting a pot hole or running over reflectors aren't as comfortable but you get the idea).

Ahhhh - yep they are very harsh but these are the old ones, not sure if they are the same. I have the receipts for them at home too from the old old owner and they weren't cheap either.

That's the new Pedders stuff yeah? I thought the old 'package' they sold were Monroe dampers and whatever springs they had.

Mine are the old ones, so they may be the Monroe ones. Either way, horrible suspension.

  • 5 weeks later...

UPDATE time betches!

  • Car doesn't dose well anymore (new turbo)
  • Car has literally no traction now (running normal street tyres, Nitto NT05)

Anyhow enough of the silliness, last night was the first time ever I have taken the R33 shit box on Parramatta Road with the MCA X-R.. at first I thought I would pop a few discs out of my spine however it was quite the opposite. As the car is now being used for more daily use (gave our daily to the missus' sister) it's on 98RON and also has a set of Nitto NT05 on 18x9 wheels... no silly stretch or poke homo shit too.

Front dampers were set to 3/12 and rear dampers set to 4/12. Very surprised that the ride quality was decent, considering i'm on 10/7kg springs which are considered a little on the stiff side. I would dare say it was more comfortable than the basic Bilstein Shocks & spring combo I had on the car before.

So there you have it, you can have comfort and handling all in one package.

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3 minutes ago, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

UPDATE time betches!

  • Car doesn't dose well anymore (new turbo)
  • Car has literally no traction now (running normal street tyres, Nitto NT05)

Anyhow enough of the silliness, last night was the first time ever I have taken the R33 shit box on Parramatta Road with the MCA X-R.. at first I thought I would pop a few discs out of my spine however it was quite the opposite. As the car is now being used for more daily use (gave our daily to the missus' sister) it's on 98RON and also has a set of Nitto NT05 on 18x9 wheels... no silly stretch or poke homo shit too.

Front dampers were set to 3/12 and rear dampers set to 4/12. Very surprised that the ride quality was decent, considering i'm on 10/7kg springs which are considered a little on the stiff side. I would dare say it was more comfortable than the basic Bilstein Shocks & spring combo I had on the car before.

So there you have it, you can have comfort and handling all in one package.

Good to hear! My X-R arrived today so this is comforting to hear. 

1 hour ago, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

UPDATE time betches!

  • Car doesn't dose well anymore (new turbo)
  • Car has literally no traction now (running normal street tyres, Nitto NT05)

Anyhow enough of the silliness, last night was the first time ever I have taken the R33 shit box on Parramatta Road with the MCA X-R.. at first I thought I would pop a few discs out of my spine however it was quite the opposite. As the car is now being used for more daily use (gave our daily to the missus' sister) it's on 98RON and also has a set of Nitto NT05 on 18x9 wheels... no silly stretch or poke homo shit too.

Front dampers were set to 3/12 and rear dampers set to 4/12. Very surprised that the ride quality was decent, considering i'm on 10/7kg springs which are considered a little on the stiff side. I would dare say it was more comfortable than the basic Bilstein Shocks & spring combo I had on the car before.

So there you have it, you can have comfort and handling all in one package.

Oh wow, 3 & 4 are quite low. Have you gone for a run on a stiffer setting to see if theres any major differences?

Yeah I usually drive to the track on 5/12 front and 6/12 rears with about 80L of extra fuel ontop of the 60L in the tank + 2x semi wheels (I drive down with front street tyres and rear semis) + a full tool kit lol.

It was on the spongey side, but not crashy and floaty.. still very composed.

  • 2 months later...

UPDATE TIME CNUTS!

So went back to Wakefield Park again yesterday and managed a 1m09.6s around the circuit. Only difference this time was a GT-R rear wing, set to 3/4 setting (nearly max angle) and only fekkk the rear end grip changed dramatically!

No more dori dori across the track like a mad man. Everything else remain the same.

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