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im hoping @Chris Rogers Can possibly help me but will make the post because i cant DM him.

 

My car was imported in 2017 with 1 key. Found a place who can sell me an OEM programed pretty cheap. Just wondering if anyone in Brisbane can do it?
Nissan (Costly i know but worth a shot) Rejected me because its an import and they cant program to the certain frequency..?

Any help would be awesome.

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Agreed. Nissan are so full of shit. If you take a look at the Nissan Consult software (I have it here with my Consult III+ scan tool), our vehicles are definitely listed in there.

Maybe the dealership you spoke to doesn't have the Immobiliser auxiliary module for their scan tool but I highly doubt that. Maybe I should look to buying that module for my scan tool as a future consideration, even though I have two keys and the PIN code.

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They told me they didnt have some specific pin thing for the frequency needed as its not the same as 350/370z.
Which i remember reading a while back that its not as easy to program a key here as people think.

 

But if i can find a local guy who can do it for a bit of $$.. i'd rather give them the money over nissan,

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2 hours ago, DashyyPC said:

They told me they didnt have some specific pin thing for the frequency needed as its not the same as 350/370z.

That doesn't make any sense to me. My understanding with these vehicles is when you're adding a key to your vehicle, you are programming the BCM to accept its unique signature, not the other way around. So this thing about frequencies smells of horseshit to me.

2 hours ago, DashyyPC said:

Which i remember reading a while back that its not as easy to program a key here as people think.

It's a ballache to say the least, no doubt about it. One thing I can give Ford credit for is that they will allow you to program your own keyfob in their crappy Falcons as long as you already have two working keys on hand. Nissan seem to have made it more difficult but not impossible with the right tools.

I'll go through my Nissan Consult software when I get home and see what this screen is all about because I'm willing to bet that with the appropriate peripheral plugged into the Consult III+ scan tool, that ought to allow the user to plug the key into the slot under the steering wheel and add it to the BCM.
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If only I were that well-versed at it! I take it you don't have the little metal tag that would've been supplied by the dealer in Japan to the original owner?

I would need to buy the immobiliser peripheral for my scan tool to have a poke around and see how it works because it turns out that I can't access that menu option without it. However, according to the procedure manual, there are two PIN codes involved. One of them is the PIN code I referred to, which can be obtained by the scan tool or otherwise is physically on the BCM's label. The second code apparently has to be obtained from Nissan's website after entering the other PIN code on their site (I suspect this is the same as the four digit code I have punched into a tiny metal tag that came with my keys when I imported my car). I might buy the immobiliser peripheral for the hell of it. I've spent more money on less useful stuff in my lifetime. :P

More information about procedure can be found here: https://nissan-techinfo.locksmithsdrm.com/sdrm/ni_02_4218/Overview of the SDRM process.pdf

In short, the dealerships have the scan tool and as long as they have the immobiliser peripheral (aka Security module), then they most definitely can do it and if they bullshit you about frequencies, you can tell them that this process is done via their scan tool connected to the OBD port, not over the airwaves.

Otherwise, hopefully there is a very well-equipped locksmith (not talking about his wedding tackle) who is more willing.

Good luck!

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I have a mobile key cutter who has all the gear. He can interrogate the system and make keys to suit...both the transponder and the central locking.  Its a half hour job and he has a number of specialised electronic gizmos. I am sure there is such a person in your city.

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OK. I did a bit more homework and I think I have the missing piece in the puzzle.

So, the locksmith/dealer in question needs to have:

  • Consult III+ scan tool (or compatible)
  • Security module (what I was previously terming as the immobiliser peripheral)
  • In the event that the secondary PIN code needs to be calculated - access to Nissan's Techinfo site for their PIN code calculator OR a piece of software released by a clever mob in the UK for about $30

Process:

  1. Plug in scan tool, load the Consult III+ software and enter the Immobilizer menu
  2. Follow the directions given in the software, whereby it will either extract the PIN code from the BCM or you take a note of it from the label on the BCM (will be four digits under the barcode)image.png.11d24f9d1467260e8ef979caf4aed977.png
  3. Secondary PIN code:
    1. If you have the metal tag which has the four digit PIN code punched into it, that will be the secondary PIN code and you enter that when requested by the Consult III+ software
    2. If you do not have this metal tag, then you will need to use either the (ahem) acquired software calculator or have someone with access to Nissan's dealer support website to perform that calculation for you. The resulting calculated secondary PIN code is then entered into your Consult III+ software.
  4. Continue following the directions to program your keyfob and away you go.

Still no mention of "frequencies" anywhere. :)

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Another thing I forgot to mention is to make sure you have all working keys with you when you do get it done, because they all need to be registered into the BCM. Of course, if you read the Nissan document, you would have already seen that but figured I'd cover that just in case.

Hopefully that's enough ammo, otherwise, as Kiwi suggested, find a decent locksmith who can do it all instead and tell the dealers to eat their own poop they love to shovel.

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11 hours ago, Azzasautoelectrics said:

Hey lads,

Dashy send me a picture of the numbers on your BCM which is jn the lhf kick panel and I will get your pin code for you mate.

I just recently went through this saga replacing the ECU on the missus 2007 350GT and had to code the two keys that came with the car to the second hand ECU. Simples stuff

Thanks mate!
Just got to work for the day so once im home ill pull it out and send you a message!

 

Life saver.

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23 hours ago, Azzasautoelectrics said:

Hey lads,

Dashy send me a picture of the numbers on your BCM which is jn the lhf kick panel and I will get your pin code for you mate.

I just recently went through this saga replacing the ECU on the missus 2007 350GT and had to code the two keys that came with the car to the second hand ECU. Simples stuff

PM'd!!

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On 27/1/2020 at 8:49 PM, Azzasautoelectrics said:

Hey lads,

Dashy send me a picture of the numbers on your BCM which is jn the lhf kick panel and I will get your pin code for you mate.

I just recently went through this saga replacing the ECU on the missus 2007 350GT and had to code the two keys that came with the car to the second hand ECU. Simples stuff

Wondering if there's anyone in here that can help me with a G37 key. Nissan were hopeless. I've got no idea what I'm doing but have a key that needs programming . Melbourne based 

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If you have an AuDM Infiniti G37, my first suggestion would be one of the ex-infiniti dealers, like Brighton.

however, if you have an imported V36 Skyline, then I am not sure, dealers can be a bit finicky about imports.

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