Finding E-30 & E-85 in Sydney

[wizlb]

Hey Ppl,

 

I am about to tuned my Infiniti Q60 with E-85 and if you can tell me some location where I can top up my car that would be great.

 

But my other question, is E-30 available because this tuned requires less mods parts and any info you can offer would be greatly appreciated too!!

[Duncan]

I'm not aware of e30 in Australia, but I'm pretty sure e85 is still around. You really want a setup with an ethanol sensor so you can run any mix of ethanol depending on what you can access. Fuel Check NSW app shows 14 site in sydney metro with e85.

What are you adding, will you put in bigger turbs too? Apparently the wastegates are pretty small and can't bypass enough as you run more boost. 

I'm sticking to 1.3 bar with 98 on the standard turbos with my tune on advice from the tuner, and boost drops significantly in the top end; apparently larger turbos with larger wastegates are needed to get anywhere meaningful from there.

[Murray_Calavera]

1 hour ago, wizlb said:

is E-30 available because this tuned requires less mods parts

What extra parts are you thinking you'll need to run e85 compared to e30?

[wizlb]

8 hours ago, Murray_Calavera said:

What extra parts are you thinking you'll need to run e85 compared to e30?

On my platform, lpfp, Hpfp, injectors, Flex fuel kit..

 

 

[Duncan]

Well, as long as you have the flex fuel kit you can use any ethanol mix. Also FYI the pump e85 varies between about e70 and e85 across winter and summer from most pumps

[Murray_Calavera]

1 hour ago, wizlb said:

On my platform, lpfp, Hpfp, injectors, Flex fuel kit..

So you want to run e30 on stock injectors and fuel pump?

[Duncan]

Its a VR30DDTT, LPFP is Low pressure fuel tank (in pump) and HPFP is High pressure / mechanical fuel pump. Injector size doesn't seem to be a limit on that engine

[Murray_Calavera]

12 minutes ago, Duncan said:

Its a VR30DDTT, LPFP is Low pressure fuel tank (in pump) and HPFP is High pressure / mechanical fuel pump. Injector size doesn't seem to be a limit on that engine

Do you mean not a limit to a certain power level? Surely if an injector is 100% open, there will be a limit to how much fuel can flow through it. 

[PranK]

I'm not sure where you are, but United Terrey Hills has E85. 

[Duncan]

1 hour ago, Murray_Calavera said:

Do you mean not a limit to a certain power level? Surely if an injector is 100% open, there will be a limit to how much fuel can flow through it. 

Sorry, I wasn't very clear.....just that the standard injectors are apparently good over 600rwhp/450rwkw which you won't get to on standard turbos anyway.....they are much better sized from factory than we are used to in RBs.

[GTSBoy]

This seems like a pointless exercise.

There is no E30 availability.

Ongoing availability of E85 should not be assumed.

Flex-fuel is the only sensible approach, so you can use E85 when and where you can get it, 98 when that's al you can get, and anything in between as you fill it up and drain it down.

And if that means replacing the pumps, fitting a flex capable sensor/ECU/whatever has to be done to these Renault shitboxen, then.....so be it?

[wizlb]

9 hours ago, PranK said:

I'm not sure where you are, but United Terrey Hills has E85. 

Perfect

 

Where can I get these parts installed in Sydney and thanks for your help

[wizlb]

8 hours ago, GTSBoy said:

This seems like a pointless exercise.

There is no E30 availability.

Ongoing availability of E85 should not be assumed.

Flex-fuel is the only sensible approach, so you can use E85 when and where you can get it, 98 when that's al you can get, and anything in between as you fill it up and drain it down.

And if that means replacing the pumps, fitting a flex capable sensor/ECU/whatever has to be done to these Renault shitboxen, then.....so be it?

I’m in a Nissan..

Thank

With the new Z1 turbos on E85 they are pushing above 725whp

 

 

[GTSBoy]

3 hours ago, wizlb said:

I’m in a Nissan..

Nah. It's a Renault. The VQ is more French than Japanese.

[Duncan]

Maybe, but this is a VR not a VQ.

I'd talk to Just Jap as they are the local AMS importer and have a workshop, otherwise Tunehouse are the Ecutec Australian distributor and said they had modified a few of these

[WMDC35]

8 hours ago, GTSBoy said:

Nah. It's a Renault. The VQ is more French than Japanese.

VQ started in 94 so started as Japanese before things went wrong haha.

[GTSBoy]

22 minutes ago, WMDC35 said:

VQ started in 94 so started as Japanese before things went wrong haha.

I open the bonnet of a French people mover and see a VQ - it's no longer Japanese!

1 hour ago, Duncan said:

Maybe, but this is a VR not a VQ.

VR is short for VQJr

[wizlb]

22 hours ago, Duncan said:

Maybe, but this is a VR not a VQ.

I'd talk to Just Jap as they are the local AMS importer and have a workshop, otherwise Tunehouse are the Ecutec Australian distributor and said they had modified a few of these

Thanks Duncan 

[luke gtr]

On 15/04/2025 at 8:05 AM, GTSBoy said:

I open the bonnet of a French people mover and see a VQ - it's no longer Japanese!

VR is short for VQJr

That depends, if the French got it from the Japanese, its Japanese. Or, is the rb30 aussie?

Also, wouldn't it be Vq for a junior variant? 

[GTSBoy]

1 minute ago, luke gtr said:

That depends, if the French got it from the Japanese, its Japanese. Or, is the rb30 aussie?

I'm just being rude.

The VQ was developed by Nissan Japan, but it comes from the time when Renault were....ruining what Nissan had been before. Just look at a Nissan Tiida, and tell me that you're not looking at a Renault. In fact, just look at a V series Skyline or Z33 etc and tell me that you're not looking at something Frenchified. I just see the VQ an emblematic of that. It is also a nasty sounding thing. I'm really glad I chose to stay RB and not put a VQ30 in when I did my car.

As to the RB30 being Aussie.....arguably it's a bit Aussie.