HICAS removal bar fitting for R33

[WHITE R33]

just got a hicas lock bar off geoff and it is top quality and it fitted like it came as a factory option. so dont hesitate to deal with him cause you wont be dissapointed

[EGA41T]

has anybody fitted one of these to a stagea?

ive got an r34gtt power fc in my stagea, will the PFC throw the warning light once the HICAS is disconnected?

[mtopxsecret6]

With the hicas computer in the rear for the 32, if you un plug the little plug inot the ecu, this will eliminate the hicas ligt, but keep the big plug still connected, as this gives you your normal steering still. Ive found a cheap way to stop the hicas from working is to unplug the small plug, but putting a lock bar in is the more permanent procedure.

[Primordial]

With the hicas computer in the rear for the 32, if you un plug the little plug inot the ecu, this will eliminate the hicas ligt, but keep the big plug still connected, as this gives you your normal steering still. Ive found a cheap way to stop the hicas from working is to unplug the small plug, but putting a lock bar in is the more permanent procedure.

Is it possible for the system to become 'floppy' if the computer is just disconnected? As in, the computer is no longer moving the bar so hard cornering might see the hicas move passively?

[mtopxsecret6]

No, the rear rack has a spring which neutralises any movement if a system failure accours. This is the same setup as my mazda 4ws mx6 and also the honda preludes use the same system. So, in affect, to sending a false system failer to the computer if you pull the small plug out. Thats on a 32, dont know about the 33. So if you wanted to see what the difference between locked and moving was, this is a good option. I have just put mine back in last night for kicks, and wholy cow does the rear end move alot!

[Nozila]

to geoff and anyone else, have you driven this lock bar on a r33 with a 'shimmed' diff and rock hard coilovers? because this is my setup atm without hicas lock bar and would like to know if anyone can give me some idea of how it would be like, particularly with regards to slow speeds. also, would the lock bar benefit my car even more with this additional mod? car is an r33 gtst.

[GTRgeoff]

Don't see how it can be anything other than an improvement. I've had them put in 600+hp 33 GTR and a Dutton rally GTR32 that should have won but for an off. I use it in my track R33 GTS25t. I've oly had positive feedback on the handling.

Thanks for the plug Sean. Cheers

Andy, I assume it will turn on the light but pull the dash and remove the globe. 30 mins.

[Nozila]

sweet, thats all i need to hear.

[Nozila]

Thanks geoff for a great product. I had this for a few days now and decided to install it today. my gosh it was a hard task, those 2 bolts were a real pain to undo - at least 2 hours worth itself without a breaker bar and short socket. glad thats over. reinstall with lock bar was quite tedious cause tie rod ends was short on one side then the other - ?? Anywho, going to take it for a drive tomorrow and see how it goes. Twin plate, locked diff and lock bar - great combination for parking

[GTRgeoff]

Glad you like it Duc. Yes you do need some heavy tools but they aren't all that expensive from supercheap.

With the offsets, do you think it might have been better around the other way? I'm thinking I might have got them mixed around at some stage so folks are putting them in the wrong way to match the slot location.

[Nozila]

well, I didnt know which way it went in so hoped on here and looked at the pics and just copied it - that is single hole on the left and slotted hole on the right if that makes sense. For some reason, with my left tie rod it was a bit too long so I had to undue the bolt and screw the rod a tad shorter to enable the holes to line up. I initially thought that the drilled holes on the lock bar was a tad out of measurement but it wasnt, was my rod - so some ppl may want to look at this if they think their's isnt lining up properly.

As for the drive with the lock bar in, I think I may have a bit of camber at the front already dialled in cause I do not feel any heavy steering at low, high or any speed for that mattter.

Again, great product and great customer service.

[willowdrift]

well, I didnt know which way it went in so hoped on here and looked at the pics and just copied it - that is single hole on the left and slotted hole on the right if that makes sense. For some reason, with my left tie rod it was a bit too long so I had to undue the bolt and screw the rod a tad shorter to enable the holes to line up. I initially thought that the drilled holes on the lock bar was a tad out of measurement but it wasnt, was my rod - so some ppl may want to look at this if they think their's isnt lining up properly.

As for the drive with the lock bar in, I think I may have a bit of camber at the front already dialled in cause I do not feel any heavy steering at low, high or any speed for that mattter.

Again, great product and great customer service.

Dude if your steering is light then you dont have much feel for the road.Get some JIC camber arms(-5degs) for the front and some Tein castor rods dialled to max.Then you will have great turn in and feel with your lock bar in the back keeping things sideways.

[Nozila]

hasnt had wheel alignment yet. but as i said, steering isnt heavy at slow speeds as many users on here have mentioned. drive just as though there wasnt a lock bar installed.

[willowdrift]

hasnt had wheel alignment yet. but as i said, steering isnt heavy at slow speeds as many users on here have mentioned. drive just as though there wasnt a lock bar installed.

Drive as if there is a lock bar installed turn in hard and excelerate and countersteer,much fun.Personaly i turn in hard and clutch kick at the same time to get more angle and power through the turn resulting in a few large black snackeys.

[willowdrift]

hasnt had wheel alignment yet. but as i said, steering isnt heavy at slow speeds as many users on here have mentioned. drive just as though there w

Edited September 29, 2006 by willowdrift

[GTRgeoff]

Dude if your steering is light then you dont have much feel for the road.Get some JIC camber arms(-5degs) for the front and some Tein castor rods dialled to max.Then you will have great turn in and feel with your lock bar in the back keeping things sideways.

OR...don't waste money on Jap stuff and use the Whiteline caster and camber kits. Do you have any real idea what camber and caster actually work best on these cars? No don't answer, just go back to whatever ricer/dorifto tool site you came from.

Drive as if there is a lock bar installed turn in hard and excelerate and countersteer,much fun.Personaly i turn in hard and clutch kick at the same time to get more angle and power through the turn resulting in a few large black snackeys.

Let me guess, another half witted midnight drifter with bugger all real racing experience?

That type of driving is fine for drift days, but will get you kicked out of a proper track day and will hopefully have your car impounded if you do it on th streets.

Back to FF and NS sites for you!

[willowdrift]

OR...don't waste money on Jap stuff and use the Whiteline caster and camber kits. Do you have any real idea what camber and caster actually work best on these cars? No don't answer, just go back to whatever ricer/dorifto tool site you came from.

Let me guess, another half witted midnight drifter with bugger all real racing experience?

That type of driving is fine for drift days, but will get you kicked out of a proper track day and will hopefully have your car impounded if you do it on th streets.

Back to FF and NS sites for you!

Well dude I clocked a 72second lap around barbagallo's long track on street tyres first time out there with the skyline,whitch shocked a few people and i beleive it was because of my track experiance and suspension setup.Negative five degrees on front kept the tyre flat on the road through high speed corners,2 mm toe out on front and 2mm toe in on the rear,castor is set to 8 degrees.This set up I beleive is good for the car along with good tyres.

And to your coments about racing experiance,what would you know,come down to Barbas if your in WA and we'll see if you can beat me in my 2ltr rnd the track with your cusco gear and rb26

[GTRgeoff]

Not that quick then. I was usually 5-7 seconds a lap faster than Ant in my GTS25t with a blown shock absorber. Nothing against Ant, he's a damn fine bloke.

See here. http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...p;hl=lap+times#

Anyway, someone with half a brain knows that -5 deg camber is too much for street tyres, unless you underinflated them and too much castor on any 32 will destroy the upper bushes so yours won't last long on 8 deg.

No Cusco stuff on the GTR or either of the GTS25ts.

Anyway son, this is about HICAS bar fitting, not how long until the end of school holidays.

[willowdrift]

65 seconds in an rb25 hey,put that motor in my car and i bet i'd do a quicker time.

Sorry i meant whiteline not cusco,japs rule.

I run federal 595"s,not just any street tyre mofo.

[Primordial]

*yawn*

yeah.. ok