Marko R1 Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 I am extremely happy, it drives like a standard GTR @ 60kmh in 5th gear (1300rpm) 2nd gear breaks traction at all 4’s on shear acceleration J Please refer to attached graph, this is my 4 wheel dyno tune figure by CRD on the 20th June (my birthday)… THE CAM GEAR DEBACLE…now proven! I was there from start to finish & saw the comparable difference. The red line (on the graph) is tuned with cam gears at 0 degrees The blue line (on the graph) is with tuned cam gears - keep in mind I do have the poncams…what a difference! Jim has made an additional 100Nm without sacrificing top end delivery… This proves that adjustable cam gears do make the difference & that Jims dyno tune has made a massive difference in torque! Only the experienced guru’s of the industry are aware of this advantage. I also had a long discussion about road tuning with Jim – he is of the opinion that you cannot simulate ‘load tuning’ i.e. load tuning at various rpm’s for a specified time period, where can you do this on the road & how can you road tune a car under load? At the end of the day Jim has 15 years experience with GTR tuning & the experience alone is working with all facets such as drag, targa, circuit, national teams, race production class etc….who else in Australia works alongside with top tuners in Japan & national racing teams? I guess this is why he is the busiest workshop in Australia, just have a look at the number of performance cars he has in his workshop & yard (over 30 cars). YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU GET – yes other tuners are cheaper but you will not reach the maximum potential if cam gears are not adjusted to suit the setup. The way I see it, if you are prepared to spend over 10k on an engine then investing another $400 additional for a proper tune is the way to go… Question: would you pay the small difference in tuning for an extra 100Nm of torque? I am not here to convince you or sell CRD but I did want to share my experience with you as I am extremely happy with the outcome. Thank you Jim Regards, Marko 0404 884 876 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgs Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Big wraps! What was the boost level and AFRs? Standard bottom end I assume Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1420450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Marko, excellent results. Tell me though, after the tune how is the cars response on the street with the GT-RS's Good work Nick Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1420461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
someonestolecc Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 I'm happy that you're happy with your car. But I use the white colour scheme and so I couldn't read your writing without highlighting it Sounds like a beast of a car. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1420466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
7heavn Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Nice power level . Now out to WSID to see what it can really do . Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1420481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abo Bob Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 What's all that wobbling about up top? Can you feel it? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1420551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgs Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 I think thats the AWD on the dyno correct me if im wrong Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1420562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mik Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Looks good Marko. What size tyres are you running? (or so you have a plot with RPM on the independant axis?) And what boost and AFRs? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1420576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest two.06l Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 I think thats the AWD on the dyno correct me if im wrong our did that too....until we threw the AVC-R out and installed a BLITZ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1420581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mik Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 our did that too....until we threw the AVC-R out and installed a BLITZ Paul...but did it do it on the road? A friend's WRX used to do the same with the AVCR on the dyno...but on the road, it was fine. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1420587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 yeah, I was curious about that too. my guess is boost controll. certainly a very nice number. Very sharp curve. BIG fat top end, but the bottom end seems a little dissapointing to me. I would personally like more 'area under the cruve', but i don't think that's a reflection on CRD more a turbo choice thing. Do you have a graph with Y axis in RPM instead of speed? if so could you post it up? enjoy mate Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1420590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merli Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 The way I see it, if you are prepared to spend over 10k on an engine then investing another $400 additional for a proper tune is the way to go… Agreed, but you'd be a miracle worker to get Jim to tune a GTR for $400. $500 is what he normally charges just to dial-in cam gears, let alone TUNE the GTR. A basic GTR tune starts at $800 and rapidly increases from there. I have never stepped foot in that workshop without being slapped with a bill LESS than $1000. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1421059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blk180 Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Yer great power on stock bottom end. i think he sayn for 400 dollars more the another tuner. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1421068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabab Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Agreed, but you'd be a miracle worker to get Jim to tune a GTR for $400.$500 is what he normally charges just to dial-in cam gears, let alone TUNE the GTR. A basic GTR tune starts at $800 and rapidly increases from there. I have never stepped foot in that workshop without being slapped with a bill LESS than $1000. I spoke to them today they said $350-750 for a full tune who knows but.. Doing a power run on Saterday morning to see what this biatch is making :Pimp2: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1421078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
renis Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Merli, Im with blk180....he is saying that it is only an additional $400 or so in comparison to most tuners who charge anywhere b/w 500-700 etc... Im in agreeance with you marko....fantatsic results...wow pretty impressive!!! Im amazed at the difference with the cam adjustment...thats worth the extra $$ to me!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1421177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merli Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 I spoke to them today they said $350-750 for a full tune who knows but..Doing a power run on Saterday morning to see what this biatch is making :Pimp2: I'll bet you $50 that he wants to change the oil, and spark plugs before tuning it. And it seems the more power a GTR makes, the more he charges... Presumably because there's more liability and less room for error with highly-strung GTR engines. Understandable I guess, but it gets old when you're told "$350-750" and then get slapped in the face with a $1500 bill. Anyway, good luck, and you have to come to the next dinner and let me take it for a spin... I'm having major power withdrawls P.S. Have you put on an oil cooler yet? :squint: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1421190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merli Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Yer great power on stock bottom end. i think he sayn for 400 dollars more the another tuner. Ahhh gotcha... Fair enuff. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1421227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabab Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 I'll bet you $50 that he wants to change the oil, and spark plugs before tuning it.And it seems the more power a GTR makes, the more he charges... Presumably because there's more liability and less room for error with highly-strung GTR engines. Understandable I guess, but it gets old when you're told "$350-750" and then get slapped in the face with a $1500 bill. Anyway, good luck, and you have to come to the next dinner and let me take it for a spin... I'm having major power withdrawls P.S. Have you put on an oil cooler yet? :squint: I'll come to this months dinner.. I was going to get an Oil cooler but after 4 new so3's + rego i have no bling bling left Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1421253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merli Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 I'll come to this months dinner..I was going to get an Oil cooler but after 4 new so3's + rego i have no bling bling left There was a fair amount of meat left on those tyres?!?! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1421306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 I was just thinking the same thing - though the car looked pretty low the last time I saw it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/77743-cam-gear-dyno-tuning-results-croydon-racing-development/#findComment-1421311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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