So with Lotus back in the sport, how long until Williams are out??? Old Rubens no doubt will be working hard for them, Hulk isnt a Vettel - Hamo by the looks of it. They are usign lowly Cosworth engines, they are probably operating on a lower budget then STR and based on Rd 1, usually when Williams are at the strongest coming off a fruitful off season, they were racing STR and Force India. They are now behind the big 4, add to that Renault, Force India and perhaps even Sauber and how long can they hold on with no results and no big sponsors to pay for the technical recruitment they need. Sam Michaels, well he can some work on my R32