Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

im sure theres ways around it? as other cars comming out of japan have full size tyres, but I guess at the time of manufacting Skylines they wouldnt imagine ppl would be using them for other purposes???

Otherwise they could have easily took off weight else where or add more KWs to compensate for the extra weight.

Whole boot is small anyway extra size in diameter where the spare goes won't make a difference

Weather its because of money or other reasons, theres no win win out of it as ppl cant put 18s or 17s in there boot i guess?

have u got a skyline? and have you ever tryed fitting a 17 or 18 siezed rim and tyre in you boot? only way to do it ( and its a hard, frustrating, pos way ), is to tilt it sideways n squeeze the bitch in till it fits... snuggly mind you....you could carry your spare around like that, just dont intend on puttin anythin else in the boot with it lol

Space savers are freakin heay for the size they are... How often do you get a punture in normal driving conditions? Like once every 3 years. Pfft. Not worth the weight in my opinion. Just get one of your mates to drop a spare off for you.

And they are called space savers for a reason.. :D

Mark actually its the location of the weight that can make the diff. I'm sure it was the case of space for the skyline but that 2 or so kilos after the rear axle in the rear driver could make it harder to control in an oversteer situation. Keep in mind that the skyline was soley developed to go racing so they weren't worried how small the boot was.

Anyway as I said in most modern road cars (take bmw's for example) the engineers do't have the room to put in a full spare....people wan't bigger boots/larger interiors etc.

The reason for the space saver is that you had to have a spare wheel to get the design certified for road compliance - hence they went for the smallest one they could find.

It took years for Mercedes to get the 'no spare wheel; thing through as they have on their SLK - which comes with one of those 'repair in a can' things I believe.

Just another example of regulations not keeping up with technology.

yeah heaps of the expensive luxery cars do not have spares anymore, if u can afford a 200 grand car i dont think your be changing your tyres urself.

plus theres always road side assist, just tell them u got a flat and u havent got a spare, they will either bring u a full size spare or tow your car to nearest servo to get a new tyre.

yeh i ditched my space saver for a number of reasons,

the stereo in the boot

i have road side assitance anyway so if its that bad i can get a tow

and with 19x10s all round with a 15x125 push bike wheel i wouldnt feel too safe

ben...

i wouldnt want to be driving on spacesavers anyway. they'll probably puncture by the time i get home not to mention driving in the rain. just call road side assist or a friend to drop you off a tyre. id rather cause a little racket then cause a huge racket when my car wraps itself around a pole

in my case its not really driver attitude, ie. like its not like i always fang the car, ive driven once with the car with a space saver on the rear, and for me it was pretty damn scary, the car felt so unstable and with 350+rwkw its not my idea of fun,

ben...

space saver are there to save money. what bout some of the newer medium size and family cars that are coming with spacesavers? i also remember an article in the royal auto (racv mag for members) that they were not happy with the inclusion of a spacesaver in a smaller car, could have been a focus? and there was room for a full size spare, yet they put a spacesaver in.

The lotus elise dont have a spare as there is bugger all room, not even for a spacesaver. so they have one of those tyre foam thingys.

WTF?

If you want a proper tyre go get another chromey and put it in your boot. Otherwise I'll stick to my spacesaver for getting me to the servo if I get a flat. I mean really you shouldn't go fast or have it on the back.

If you puncture a rear tyre and you have a mech diff remember to take off a front wheel, put it on the rear and then put the spacesaver on the front so as not to kill your diff.

Also for the guy who said he has 350rwkw and didn't like the space saver... well.. That's to be expected but you don't have to use it, you can just leave it at home and get a mate.. I'm assuming it got you where you wanted to go.. what's the problem? They're not meant to be driven on for normal use.

Decepticon - is this thread to whinge that you have to take out the space saver if you don't want to use it?

had to use my space saver on the weekend, didnt go over 60 the whole time, from castle hill to windsor to get my tyre fixed, I dont think the ppl behind me were to happy, but im sure they could see the space saver was on there. For what it was intended for its fine..

not like I was taking corners hard, or even hitting boost with the thing on there.

I remember that story kruger and I think it was a focus. The spare was situated under the boot floor and was wide enough and deep enough for a normal spare but they chose a space saver.

They also did a braking test with it on which was obviously a longer distance. There was also mention that in some small cars the spare tyre well was part of the crumple zone or something?

someonestolecc: Can you tell me why the space saver on the rear of a mech diff would cause damage? I would never had thought twice about it untill you have mentioned it and now I am curious.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • I came here to note that is a zener diode too base on the info there. Based on that, I'd also be suspicious that replacing it, and it's likely to do the same. A lot of use cases will see it used as either voltage protection, or to create a cheap but relatively stable fixed voltage supply. That would mean it has seen more voltage than it should, and has gone into voltage melt down. If there is something else in the circuit dumping out higher than it should voltages, that needs to be found too. It's quite likely they're trying to use the Zener to limit the voltage that is hitting through to the transistor beside it, so what ever goes to the zener is likely a signal, and they're using the transistor in that circuit to amplify it. Especially as it seems they've also got a capacitor across the zener. Looks like there is meant to be something "noisy" to that zener, and what ever it was, had a melt down. Looking at that picture, it also looks like there's some solder joints that really need redoing, and it might be worth having the whole board properly inspected.  Unfortunately, without being able to stick a multimeter on it, and start tracing it all out, I'm pretty much at a loss now to help. I don't even believe I have a climate control board from an R33 around here to pull apart and see if any of the circuit appears similar to give some ideas.
    • Nah - but you won't find anything on dismantling the seats in any such thing anyway.
    • Could be. Could also be that they sit around broken more. To be fair, you almost never see one driving around. I see more R chassis GTRs than the Renault ones.
    • Yeah. Nah. This is why I said My bold for my double emphasis. We're not talking about cars tuned to the edge of det here. We're talking about normal cars. Flame propagation speed and the amount of energy required to ignite the fuel are not significant factors when running at 1500-4000 rpm, and medium to light loads, like nearly every car on the road (except twin cab utes which are driven at 6k and 100% load all the time). There is no shortage of ignition energy available in any petrol engine. If there was, we'd all be in deep shit. The calorific value, on a volume basis, is significantly different, between 98 and 91, and that turns up immediately in consumption numbers. You can see the signal easily if you control for the other variables well enough, and/or collect enough stats. As to not seeing any benefit - we had a couple of EF and EL Falcons in the company fleet back in the late 90s and early 2000s. The EEC IV ECU in those things was particularly good at adding in timing as soon as knock headroom improved, which typically came from putting in some 95 or 98. The responsiveness and power improved noticeably, and the fuel consumption dropped considerably, just from going to 95. Less delta from there to 98 - almost not noticeable, compared to the big differences seen between 91 and 95. Way back in the day, when supermarkets first started selling fuel from their own stations, I did thousands of km in FNQ in a small Toyota. I can't remember if it was a Starlet or an early Yaris. Anyway - the supermarket servos were bringing in cheap fuel from Indonesia, and the other servos were still using locally refined gear. The fuel consumption was typically at least 5%, often as much as 8% worse on the Indo shit, presumably because they had a lot more oxygenated component in the brew, and were probably barely meeting the octane spec. Around the same time or maybe a bit later (like 25 years ago), I could tell the difference between Shell 98 and BP 98, and typically preferred to only use Shell then because the Skyline ran so much better on it. Years later I found the realtionship between them had swapped, as a consequence of yet more refinery closures. So I've only used BP 98 since. Although, I must say that I could not fault the odd tank of United 98 that I've run. It's probably the same stuff. It is also very important to remember that these findings are often dependent on region. With most of the refineries in Oz now dead, there's less variability in local stuff, and he majority of our fuels are not even refined here any more anyway. It probably depends more on which SE Asian refinery is currently cheapest to operate.
    • You don't have an R34 service manual for the body do you? Have found plenty for the engine and drivetrain but nothing else
×
×
  • Create New...