Snowman Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 The A048's are the worst for heat cycles. If they are going to be used for regular track work as well they only have a good 10 or so heat cycles before they really harden up. This fact makes them probably a longer lasting street tyre however. I've used one set and won't use them again. The Dunlops seem to be the best but are $$$ which is why I use the RE55's which are pretty awesome at everything. The Toyo's have amazing grip from cold compared to the others but not as much grip when hot. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3264214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr81 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 The A048's are the worst for heat cycles. If they are going to be used for regular track work as well they only have a good 10 or so heat cycles before they really harden up. This fact makes them probably a longer lasting street tyre however. I've used one set and won't use them again.The Dunlops seem to be the best but are $$$ which is why I use the RE55's which are pretty awesome at everything. The Toyo's have amazing grip from cold compared to the others but not as much grip when hot. One other point people may like to note is that the RE55's (Bridgies) make an absolute bucket load of noise on the road. The Toyo's (RA1's & perhaps the 888's) are, by contrast, civilised. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3264221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawn Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 (edited) Yeah the road noise really gets to me at 6am drives to Winton . I wouldn't use it on a daily driver, especially before the tyres warm up, the grip is worse than my street tyres. Edit: Im using RE55s. Edited August 2, 2007 by Yawn Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3264284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukits01 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Do the TOYO R888 heat cycle? I was informed that they dont... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3265031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 every tyre 'heat cycles' I think what you actually want to know is does a tyres performance drop off after a number of heat cycles and the answer is yes, all semi-slicks are affected by the number heat cylcles they are put through. some worse than others, but they all are in some way. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3265075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukits01 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Fair enough, guess my next question is among the DZ03/RE55S/A048/R888 which one is affected more by heat cycles? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3265570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 A048's are the worst for performance drop offs after heat cycles. They really do go rock hard. The Toyo R888's are excelent for road noise compared to the others. I'd use these if the car was seeing more street time than anything or if the motorosport I was doing was primarily auto-tests / hill climbs. But for a track day tyre I'd use the DZ03's if I could afford them. But I can't so I use the RE55's as they are the next best. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3266223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukits01 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 A048's are the worst for performance drop offs after heat cycles. They really do go rock hard.The Toyo R888's are excelent for road noise compared to the others. I'd use these if the car was seeing more street time than anything or if the motorosport I was doing was primarily auto-tests / hill climbs. But for a track day tyre I'd use the DZ03's if I could afford them. But I can't so I use the RE55's as they are the next best. Do you remember which compound of A048 you used, Snowman? was it Medium (M) or Medium-Hard (MH)? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3266292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 like Gary said above, they are both the exactly the same despite the markings according to the importer Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3268004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T04GTR Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 yeah. i used to use the ute ones. we have a large stack of them all with abot 1.5-2mm left on them. generally this amount lasts about 2 weeks of normal driving up and down the m2 before they are completly smoth. pretty scary but. not bad in the rain. but at 300+ a tyre its just not worth it. thats what the spare rims with propper track rubber is for Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3268443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 What are the utes running on these days dave? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3269130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T04GTR Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 235-45-17 meduim/hard garbage lol (pushing 1800kg with driver) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3269454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 lol indeed...but thats OK when there is acontrol tyre ie all on the same crap. But are they using the yoko 48r now as well? Aren't they on some dunlops Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3270008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackman GTS4 Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 How much approx are the Toyo 888 aswell as the Bridgestones RE55 for 235/45/17 ? Anyone have a rough idea? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3270041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 we paid 1700 for 5 re55s in 234/45/17s from Donnellans in Melbourne for Targa Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3270073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sick_R31 Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 RE55s 235/45/17 $329 each http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...howtopic=174320 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3270099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T04GTR Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 nar they use o48r. we get (with a hard driver) 3 races and a practice out of a set. ie 1 meeting. the utes are just to heavy and peeps love flatspotting them. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3272174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T04GTR Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 top of my head the 235-34-17 ute ones are about 380~ ish Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3272178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T04GTR Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 048 is good for about 10 mins. then gos off and is the same right down to the canvas. at a test day we smashed the lap record on almost bald tyres. 1.50.05. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3272183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 gordon should have been happy then, thats 3 categories in nsw using them as control tyres. Shame they suck - utes used to run on basically a road tyre compound so its not wonder they are going better now - but the dunlop dz03 and bridgestone re55 are still at least a second quicker. Haven't tried the toyos myself but they are getting a good wrap atm. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/163997-advan-a048-semi-slicks/page/2/#findComment-3274484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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