Bad Design In Cars

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

^ ghey

[2rismo]

BG model Mazda 323s - the A pillar plastic trim always goes brittle and falls off, and you cant get them second hand because they break as soon as you try and take them off

Surprisingly, +1

[floody]

Heater box positioning. Placing an extremely expensive, non serviceable item prone to leakage where it generally is impossible to access without removing effectively half the interior, and is guaranteed to at some point leak and spark off rust issues in the floor pan, is pretty stupid really.

Everything on the intake side of the HR31 RB20DET; it is near impossible to access anything on that side with the gearbox in, in fact most things would be easier with the engine out. That doesn't just go for the complex network of sensors and vacuum actuators, but also for things like the oil filter. I believe its mostly due to the short deck height and extreme width of the head, which puts the bulky intake very close to the strut tower. RB25s and RB30s in the same engine bay are nowhere near as bad.

[Guest]

MR2 Spyder, a part from obvious lack of luggage space, it had 3 cup holders but only 2 seats. Its handbrake location is awkward since you have nudge your passenger away in order to pull the handbrake.

[VB-]

alot of cars i get into with manual window winders, i find the winders are facing up when the window is right down, and sticks into the side of my knee. frustrating when just trying to cruise with the window down, i either have to put the window up a lil and have it sticking into the underside of my arm, or leave it down and have the winder in the side of my knee

[zebra]

I just realised this morning that the 32's handbrake position is shit. You can't have your car in reverse and push the handbrake button down easily. Just say you are on a hill and need to reverse out. The handbrake is a bit close to the gearstick.

+1 For That in my 33....the long ass gear leaver in my car touches the handbrake in reverse

[Kinks]

My R31 looks like a fridge on wheels.

In my experience, fridges often have beer in them. I don't see the problem?

Re R33 antennas, mine went crazy one day and went all the way up on half. i turned it to full, and nothing happened. turned it back to half and it went all the way in. turned the radio off and then back on again and it stayed in. turned it to full and it went all the way up.

a day later it mysteriously fixed itself and went back to normal :laughing-smiley-014:

R33 has very, very few things that bother me. They are a well sorted car.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

alot of cars i get into with manual window winders, i find the winders are facing up when the window is right down, and sticks into the side of my knee. frustrating when just trying to cruise with the window down, i either have to put the window up a lil and have it sticking into the underside of my arm, or leave it down and have the winder in the side of my knee

+ 11ty

[Abo Bob]

The boot opening lever on my 34 is where I always expect to find the seat tilt back lever so whenever I go to change the tilt of the seat I open the boot by accident.

[Richie33]

The R33 cup holder isn't movement proof, its got that thing for holding cans but no support at the front. Even under gentle braking I've had it fall out.

Boot space is shocking in the 33 for a car it's size, it just fits 2 sets of golf clubs... just. Victim of having the fuel tank between the rear seat and boot.

[Kinks]

People quickly learn that anything not bolted to something else in my car, moves. I don't leave drinks in the console for the same reason, besides which it's not deep enough and it gets in the way of changing gears. I suppose that's a minor annoyance but it doesn't bother me *shrug*

Boot space is pretty bad but I think it is designed for the jap businessman who only needs to carry golf clubs.

[zebra]

This may have been mentioned (cant be bothered reading the whole thing again)

But Space saver spare tyres!

Edited September 28, 2007 by zebra

[Oblivion]

blind spots in camry's +1....... Plus sports cars need larger back seats

sif...dont buy a sports car.

combustion engines.....

fuel.

oil

plastic.

[Freddy Kruger]

on the old hq-z holdens... the high beam button... is on the f*kin floor.

[Ryanrb25]

+1 for blind spot in 2001 Astra

Electronic throttles suck balls.

93 rodeo gearbox crossmember is part of the chassis so its a c&$t to remove gearbox.

[Kinks]

Re R33 antennas, mine went crazy one day and went all the way up on half. i turned it to full, and nothing happened. turned it back to half and it went all the way in. turned the radio off and then back on again and it stayed in. turned it to full and it went all the way up.

a day later it mysteriously fixed itself and went back to normal :laughing-smiley-014:

f**king jinxed myself, now it has shit itself good and proper

[Basti]

i hate the hand brake in camrys (2004 onwards anyway). its situated on the wrong side of the shifter. i keep having to consciously think bout where it is when i wanna use it.

[Cassbo]

Electronic throttles suck balls.

Oh doesn't it. My driving style dictates that to slow my car down while going down a hill that I push in the clutch, hit the accelerator for a moment, then shove it into a lower gear. Works just fine with a cable driven throttle. Electronic ones don't quite have the response I like... and I don't enjoy compression lock up in a front wheel drive Volkswaggen Caddie...

The beverage holder in the R33 seems pretty useless, mainly because I'm always changing gears. Its usually my mobile holder, and it does that pretty dismally too lol

Reverse in Euro cars, I want it under 5th or next to 6th, not next to 1st.

Wiper/Indicators in Euro cars, wrong way around

Anything with over 120kWs and front wheel drive... Magna, 380, Aurion (although, its ment to be pretty good lol), Camry, ect. Torque/under steer... Plus, I want a tail shaft damn it!

No dimmer for the dash illumination in my R33. Sure, not needed in the city, but when I go bush and there is wildlife near the road, I want full concentration on the road

The fuel consumption thing in BMWs. OMG!! Distracting Wants an on/off button.

Over use of plastic in engine bays.

Plastic throttle bodies designed for climates around Britan and such. Got 3000rpm idle?

Overly powerful power steering. I like to feel some effort.

[tricky_dan]

BG model Mazda 323s - the A pillar plastic trim always goes brittle and falls off, and you cant get them second hand because they break as soon as you try and take them off

Surprisingly, +1

definently +1! haha ive owned 2 BGs, the first one was mint and had them (but wrote the car off...) but my current ones are totally broken!

oh and the oil filter in BGs is also a real bitch.. not sure how it compares to rb26s tho..

apex seals in rotarys? i really wish all cars were rotaries (cause they just keeep spinning) but those bloody apex seals....

[SilverECR33]

But Space saver spare tyres!

+1, it sux cause you cant put a 18" spare rim in the boot of the R33. probably the same for all R32, R33, R34 Im guessing.