jet_r31 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I did ditch the BOV, i never run them on auto cars unless i have to, its not that loud,bit disappointed actually, i quite like the pigeons under the bonnet My Gt42 sounded awesome. cheers darren Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7286128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
V28VX37 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 if you hold down the mode button on mode 1 2 3 & 4 is the gain 20 all the way through them? you can set it differently for each mode by holding down the mode button for three seconds then adjusting with the select button. Yes, Gain is 20 all the way through channels 1 to 4. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7286140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted May 18, 2014 Author Share Posted May 18, 2014 If you are using a Mac solenoid for boost control. I'm not if this EBC allow different gain settings at different RPMS which some ECU support. You can can use perhaps 50% gain down low and 100% gain after 5000. But either way the SS2 should have a slight creeping behavior working with a EBC, I think the drop could be related to insufficient supply of air or discharge of hot air inside the exhaust. See if boost level changes after 5000RPMs without air box lid and mesh filter first, then try a hollow cat ( I can lend u one if you need ). Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7286553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted May 19, 2014 Author Share Posted May 19, 2014 This is a newer high flow profile available for Rb20det owners. It is very specifically aimed at response. The profile configuration works out very close to a 2871 in 52T. Maximum power wise would be expected around the 230rwkws mark depending on supporting mods and amount of boost given. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7287302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackkers Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Stao how much do you charge for that rb20det highflow? Looks like a good option for bolt on upgrades Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7289368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share Posted May 21, 2014 Been told by customer its pretty responsive. It cost $850 to high flow. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7289539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgaz Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Yes, Gain is 20 all the way through channels 1 to 4. Just to correct some mis-information i gave...the gain is the same all the way through because you can't set it individually for each mode. each setup is different but i've found a gain of 30 and setting of 60 to work well to 1.18bar or if i want a different response i set gain to 7 and setting to 71 which gives me 1.18-1.2 bar. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7289654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
V28VX37 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Just to correct some mis-information i gave...the gain is the same all the way through because you can't set it individually for each mode. each setup is different but i've found a gain of 30 and setting of 60 to work well to 1.18bar or if i want a different response i set gain to 7 and setting to 71 which gives me 1.18-1.2 bar. Thanks man. Yes I thought it might be the case that there's only one global gain setting. So mine is currently at setting 55 and gain 20 and peaks at around 1.35 bar. I feel that the tuner has a good job given the constraints of the EBC. The next thing I'll investigate is the possible restriction in the exhaust (cat) or intake (airbox, IC). Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7289809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 Best to upgrade induction and exhaust first then play with the EBC as the end result will vary. I'm posting up an promotion on our new ATR43SS-2 internally gated bolton turbochargers so more people can enjoy our latest development. The Retail price on this item is currently $1450, you can have own them now for $999 including braided oil feeding line. The Special offer is for 20 units only. That is currently the best performing RB25det bolton turbocharger. Product details and Dyno results are: http://www.hypergearturbos.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=72&product_id=81 3 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7290679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet_r31 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Do they come with free steak knives Stao..lol cheers darren Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7290906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBrennan25 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Wow ok going to place an order tonight now that I've seen that price, that's unreal. Thanks Stao!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7290950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dose Pipe Sutututu Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Phoar! So cheap!!! At this price might need a spare one LOL Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7291014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 This is the larger version of the 2nd generation SS2. It is 1.5mm bigger on compressor side and 3mms larger on turbine side. More power. On the less complicated to build turbochargers. Since we have found good uses of a CNC machine that we can rent, we will be making TD06L2 based turbochargers are a very cheap price. that will be the SLSS2 and Sl20.5G turbochargers. Will update new pricing and details shortly. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7291106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Kasko Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Stao do you have any graphs of what a SS1PU looks like on E85? I'm currently over seas and only have my mobile so can't really find things easily. Cheers, DK Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7291133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 This is the larger version of the 2nd generation SS2. It is 1.5mm bigger on compressor side and 3mms larger on turbine side. More power. On the less complicated to build turbochargers. Since we have found good uses of a CNC machine that we can rent, we will be making TD06L2 based turbochargers are a very cheap price. that will be the SLSS2 and Sl20.5G turbochargers. Will update new pricing and details shortly. I thought you had your own CNC machine? I thought that was how you make the billet compressors? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7291297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share Posted May 23, 2014 For the quantity that I'm currently doing its not worth to own. Also its only worth while using CNC making a number of identical housings at once, which in my case its different combinations for different customers. So most of the housings are still hand made on lathe on milling machine. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7291357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 So then who makes the SS wheels? Who's design is it? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7291704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share Posted May 23, 2014 The SS wheels are originally just a machined version of the cast wheel, trailed and modified through time by my self. The CNC programming was done by an engineer that I hire, I also hire and work with many other engineers for different purposes on the development and manufacturing of a turbocharger. Other thing worth mention is the CNC machine that does the profiling and machining of the comp and turbine housings are not the 5 axis machine that does the billet wheels. Those are CNC lathe and mills. One does all the machining of the horizontal profile and groves, and the other one does all the drilling and tapping of the holes. In which the Greedy comp and turbine housings that are made to run on C clip and V clamps are cheaper and quicker to produce as all aspects of machinery was done on one horizontal CNC lathe. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7291787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missileman Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 are you saying your compressor wheels machined from a casting or are they machined from billit forging, there is a bit of a difference there. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7291799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share Posted May 23, 2014 Can't machine a cast wheel, material is too soft. it starts as a copy of the cast wheel, which is a Billet comp wheel that is identical to a normal cast wheel, I then took it for a dyno run for a base output. From there I modify the wheel blade shapes, tips, height, hub sizes and etc then evaluate each and single modification done to see what sort of differences it has made compare to base output on a dyno. Drawing of the better performing wheel where sent to produce in a batch. Like I've mentioned, my Skyline have done 1807 dyno runs since the start of this project, and probably made this thread containing more dyno readings then the dynosheet section plus a lot more that wasn't posted. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/493/#findComment-7291806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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