R34 Gtt Vs Late Model V8 Monaro

[Khabel]

I'm getting bored with my R34 and am thinking of changing to a 04/05 V8 Monaro. There arent any around here to test drive so I was wondering if there is anyone who has driven both can give me some advice about what I can expect in handling/performance differences.

[choyda]

Comparing the two, the Monaro feels a lot heavier and is a lot more boat like compared to the GT-T.

The GT-T in stock form feels slower.

[Kujotk]

I'm getting bored with my R34 and am thinking of changing to a 04/05 V8 Monaro. There arent any around here to test drive so I was wondering if there is anyone who has driven both can give me some advice about what I can expect in handling/performance differences.

monaro is quicker than a stock gtt, doesn't handle as well as a stock gtt though.

Throw on a few bolt ons, raise turbo pressure, tune and gtt is better in every way.

if you're bored of the gtt then give the monaro a go, keep in mind they are two very different cars and they are pretty hard to compare, depends on the individual person.

Also posting on a skyline forum you are already setting yourself up for a biassed response.

good luck

[SLEEPR85]

In a straight line the monaro would prob beat the stock 34, but come to a corner the 34's chassis will be able to carry the speed through. If your bored its obviously upgrading suspension/turbo time! A properly modded skyline is never boring!

[HEKT1K]

If the Monaro is still NA, don't bother. A lightly to mildly modded skyline will waste an NA Monaro every day of the week

[Birds]

Any N/A Monaro you say?

I recommend doing the change. If you're bored of your R34, modifying it will only sustain enjoyment for a little while longer. Monaro is a completely different car, I think you'll like it just on it being different. I'd do the same swing to an R34 if I was getting bored of a Monaro. LS engines are very easy to modify, you'll enjoy Commodore parts availability and pricing.

[syfon]

I beg to differ.

If you have a Monaro with some mild mods such as an intake and exhaust VS a modded R34 (exhaust, intake, boost, FMIC, computer system, tune), the Monaro and the Skyline would be very much on par in all areas. If you had both on a track, the Monaro would be faster down the 1/4 mile, and around a racetrack, the Monaro and Skyline would be very closely matched.

Remember, a very lightly modded Monaro (with a free-flowing exhaust and intake) would be making somewhere in the vicinity of 350rwhp, whereas a mildly modded R34 (as above) would be making 250-280rwhp. The monaro has a shitload more torque thanks to a larger capacity motor and of course the 2 extra cyliners.

Obviously if you drive both, you will notice the difference, as the Monaro isn't exactly a light car (weighing in somewhere around the 1600kg mark), and the R34 is around the ~1450kg mark.

At the end of the day it's personal choice. Go drive a Monaro and take your time to think about it. Buy what you prefer to drive, buy what you will enjoy to drive more...don't impulse buy or you will regret it.

[Ten Four]

Stock GTTs are slow.... I had a run with one on my mums saab 95 linear (130kw at fly, fwd) and lost by 1-1.5 car lengths around 130 from a 20 rolling start....

[KezR33]

If you want something different why not go down the AWD path?

My mate and I test drove an Evo 8 on the weekend, it was nuts. The owner was obviously a skilled driver, but the speed he took these corners and speed traps in the wet was scary. The raw acceleration was mental too. Sure top end it might run out of puff, but shooting around the streets it was neck breakingly quick.

[maclarenf1]

+1 For Evo 8 MR

i looked at a few and they can now be had for around 31-32 Mark, although advertised for 35-36 Mark

There bloody nice to drive... it was a night mare to pick which to Buy/ import (in my case R34 GTR vs Evo 8 MR)

No clue on the Monaro, I will say a free flowing LS engine, is a very nice sounding engine...

regardless, Test Drive before you make up you mind.... Big mistake otherwise

[PM-R33]

Buy my dads

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/privat...igy&trecs=1

But in all honestly it comes down to whether you are keeping the cars stock or doing mild mods or going all out. Once modifications come into play its a whole new ball game. The Monaros really start to shine with a supercharger on them and I gaurantee if you drove my dads car you would want one straight away, it puts my car to shame.

[HEKT1K]

Any N/A Monaro you say?

No i didn't say any. To clarify, i mean most stock capacity, mildly modded LS1s

I beg to differ.

If you have a Monaro with some mild mods such as an intake and exhaust VS a modded R34 (exhaust, intake, boost, FMIC, computer system, tune), the Monaro and the Skyline would be very much on par in all areas. If you had both on a track, the Monaro would be faster down the 1/4 mile, and around a racetrack, the Monaro and Skyline would be very closely matched.

Remember, a very lightly modded Monaro (with a free-flowing exhaust and intake) would be making somewhere in the vicinity of 350rwhp, whereas a mildly modded R34 (as above) would be making 250-280rwhp. The monaro has a shitload more torque thanks to a larger capacity motor and of course the 2 extra cyliners.

Obviously if you drive both, you will notice the difference, as the Monaro isn't exactly a light car (weighing in somewhere around the 1600kg mark), and the R34 is around the ~1450kg mark.

At the end of the day it's personal choice. Go drive a Monaro and take your time to think about it. Buy what you prefer to drive, buy what you will enjoy to drive more...don't impulse buy or you will regret it.

1600kg is being a bit kind to the Monaro, isn't it? Add to that the fact that a lot of them are auto, so from a rolling start, where the skyline will be on boost straight away, the monaro is going to want to have a fair bit more hp to keep up.

this isn't a pissing contest, however. i agree, best bet for the OP is to give one a go.

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

Board?!

Buy a R34 GTR.

Stock GTTs are slow.... I had a run with one on my mums saab 95 linear (130kw at fly, fwd) and lost by 1-1.5 car lengths around 130 from a 20 rolling start....

"Ask any racer, it don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning."

[Tangles]

Buy my dads

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/privat...igy&trecs=1

But in all honestly it comes down to whether you are keeping the cars stock or doing mild mods or going all out. Once modifications come into play its a whole new ball game. The Monaros really start to shine with a supercharger on them and I gaurantee if you drove my dads car you would want one straight away, it puts my car to shame.

nice car^

wish I had a dad like that

tbh tho mine is into FX-FJ holdens, in particular fj panelvans. got a handful of them in various states.

he was going to buy a yellow new monaro back in 2000 but was held up with shotgun on the test drive (it would have been mine to buy after 3yrs)

never did buy a monaro, went to nissan patrols instead. being 2m tall I couldnt even fit in the front seats let alone behind the steering wheel!

so my brother got the opportunity to buy a patrol off him instead. me, Im still waiting for my monaro

[Crans]

My wife has an SS Ute 6 speed manual, trust me stick with the skyline. There clunky build quality is crap everything falls apart. Gearbox feels like a tractor. Engine in stock form isn't that torquie, Basically not that great to drive. Mod your skyline 400 ponies kicking out the back will get you back into it

[SLEEPR85]

nice car^

wish I had a dad like that

tbh tho mine is into FX-FJ holdens, in particular fj panelvans. got a handful of them in various states.

he was going to buy a yellow new monaro back in 2000 but was held up with shotgun on the test drive (it would have been mine to buy after 3yrs)

never did buy a monaro, went to nissan patrols instead. being 2m tall I couldnt even fit in the front seats let alone behind the steering wheel!

so my brother got the opportunity to buy a patrol off him instead. me, Im still waiting for my monaro

No Shit, i remeber that on the news. Monaro's were only out for like a week and it got highjacked, near adelaide oval? Would have been pretty scary for your old man, good enough reason not to buy one i'm thinking!

[Harey]

I have a direct comparison, my old man has a VZ series monaro with a tune (225rwkw) and I have an R34 GTT with a cooler exhaust and boost (190rwkw). Mine will just beat him in a straight line, as soon as a corner comes the R34 kills it.

It depends what sort of person you are, are you into the look and feel of your car or the sheer performance of it? If you enjoy the look and feel of a car, then a change may be great and you can enjoy something different. If its the performance side, then the one that is more modded will win haha.

So start modding! I went for a ride in the hypergear R33 with 300rwkw (but only running 270rwkw on the night) and it was spaz. It gave you a real thrill. Plus once you hit the speed, the skyline can hold more of it through the corner. My vote is for the R34. The monaro is a great car but more straight line oriented and a great cruising car.

Edited September 9, 2010 by Harey

[Tangles]

No Shit, i remeber that on the news. Monaro's were only out for like a week and it got highjacked, near adelaide oval? Would have been pretty scary for your old man, good enough reason not to buy one i'm thinking!

yup, carjacked on war memorial drive.

put him off the monaro thats for sure..... never mind the fact the thieves were meth-heads on a crime spree; random opportunity to carjack a new monaro so they took it

[syfon]

Buy a 1970 HG 350 GTS Monaro, probably slower than a stock r34 gtt but you will pull lots a bewbs in an old skewl monaro

[Harey]

Buy my dads

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/privat...igy&trecs=1

But in all honestly it comes down to whether you are keeping the cars stock or doing mild mods or going all out. Once modifications come into play its a whole new ball game. The Monaros really start to shine with a supercharger on them and I gaurantee if you drove my dads car you would want one straight away, it puts my car to shame.

Love the QLD mod plate, "yeah mate she looks good" and passed. No emission tests or engineering certificates etc.