Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

+1 for in particular on a rb25 with a 3076 compared to a gtx3076 really need to see if there are benifets after talking about them for a while.

I've been advised that a gtx3071 .7 front .73 rear with 4" inlet is the way to go.

I've been advised that a gtx3071 .7 front .73 rear with 4" inlet is the way to go.

You have been advised wrong mate. That is guess work as it is well known the AVO housing does not have any solid results to back it up. It is also known that the said housing is made for the stock turbo and you will need to have it milled to suit the GT30 core.

Therefore you may expect results somewhat close to what you would get with an OP6 housing on the back of your turbo, AKA f**king terrible. The OP6 wont flow what your going to ask of it and wont hold boost properly, so I do not anticipate the AVO will be much better.

If you are serious, get a GTX3071 with whatever front it bloody comes with and the genuine garrett .82IW rear housing. That is the only way to go if you want it to be internally gated.

Now enough broken record questions and go buy a turbo.

You have been advised wrong mate. That is guess work as it is well known the AVO housing does not have any solid results to back it up. It is also known that the said housing is made for the stock turbo and you will need to have it milled to suit the GT30 core.

Therefore you may expect results somewhat close to what you would get with an OP6 housing on the back of your turbo, AKA f**king terrible. The OP6 wont flow what your going to ask of it and wont hold boost properly, so I do not anticipate the AVO will be much better.

If you are serious, get a GTX3071 with whatever front it bloody comes with and the genuine garrett .82IW rear housing. That is the only way to go if you want it to be internally gated.

Now enough broken record questions and go buy a turbo.

Can you point me to some information I can look at that proves:

"it is well known the AVO housing does not have any solid results to back it up"

Also isn't:

"so I do not anticipate the AVO will be much better"

.... Guesswork in itself? I have been advised for that setup (amongst many options) and was justified as to why.

So back to my first point. Please point me in the right direction justifying: "it is well known the AVO housing does not have any solid results to back it up"

Cheers.

Edited by ShiftyTys

The turbine wheels were designed with a garrett housing so you are compromising turbine flow. If you are determined to go this way then post up the results as soon as you are done.

The good news is it will bolt on to the factory dump pipe.

well been reading through info on these new turbos and only dyno results i have found say they aren't much better than the old gt series

so now im left with what turbo do i want to buy it will be going on my rb26/30 i am currently building hopin for close to 600awhp

should i just go a gt35 or gtx35 or will i need to go gt40 its so bloody confusing reading all this dont want to much lag although anything would be better than the t04r i used to have didnt hit full boost untill 5.5K lol

thinking of trying out the gtx3582r but dunno if its worth it???

well been reading through info on these new turbos and only dyno results i have found say they aren't much better than the old gt series

so now im left with what turbo do i want to buy it will be going on my rb26/30 i am currently building hopin for close to 600awhp

should i just go a gt35 or gtx35 or will i need to go gt40 its so bloody confusing reading all this dont want to much lag although anything would be better than the t04r i used to have didnt hit full boost untill 5.5K lol

thinking of trying out the gtx3582r but dunno if its worth it???

im in the same boat as you mate,

i already brought a GT35 T3 1.06 abouth 8 months ago, im running my rb30 on e85 so ive been told i should crack the 400rwkw mark

anyways if i was you i would look at the efr borg warner series..

and sit back for a few weeks a compair results from each turbo etc...

Can you point me to some information I can look at that proves:

"it is well known the AVO housing does not have any solid results to back it up"

Also isn't:

"so I do not anticipate the AVO will be much better"

.... Guesswork in itself? I have been advised for that setup (amongst many options) and was justified as to why.

So back to my first point. Please point me in the right direction justifying: "it is well known the AVO housing does not have any solid results to back it up"

Cheers.

Let me make things simpler. When I say, does not have ANY, that means you will not find ANY. There are no results from an AVO housing. No results = $700 risk, and yes that is how much they cost.

On the other hand, its about half that for the garrett item that is proven to work.

Your cash, your call, either way I wont be 'justifying' anything.

GL.

Let me make things simpler. When I say, does not have ANY, that means you will not find ANY. There are no results from an AVO housing. No results = $700 risk, and yes that is how much they cost.

On the other hand, its about half that for the garrett item that is proven to work.

Your cash, your call, either way I wont be 'justifying' anything.

GL.

Don't make a statement you can't justify or back up. It wastes the time of people who are after informed and educated answers.

It also puts a negative spin on someones product with no proof.

What is to justify? I said its a gamble as there are no results.

Plain and simple. No results to JUSTIFY buying it.

Facts are, its made for the stock turbo and not for a GT30. You will need to machine it to fit the GT30 core. The AR is relevant to the tiny stock turbo. The wastegate port will be sized to suit the stock turbo. It costs $700. Noone has seen one work or do a good job with the same GT30.

More facts: the garrett .82IW housing is proven to work. It will cost you half of the AVO housing and will not need to be modified to fit. It is designed to work with the turbo you want to use. It can hold the boost you will want to run. It can flow the power the turbo is capable of making.

If you want to argue the point further, please see the hypergear thread.

There are a few AVO housing results around if you search but most don't make the most of the compressors potential from what I have seen with the exception of one outlying high result.

Pretty much this subject has been covered a few times over the years and most people are going to suggest the native housing for the turbine for best results.

What is to justify? I said its a gamble as there are no results.

Plain and simple. No results to JUSTIFY buying it.

Facts are, its made for the stock turbo and not for a GT30. You will need to machine it to fit the GT30 core. The AR is relevant to the tiny stock turbo. The wastegate port will be sized to suit the stock turbo. It costs $700. Noone has seen one work or do a good job with the same GT30.

More facts: the garrett .82IW housing is proven to work. It will cost you half of the AVO housing and will not need to be modified to fit. It is designed to work with the turbo you want to use. It can hold the boost you will want to run. It can flow the power the turbo is capable of making.

If you want to argue the point further, please see the hypergear thread.

+1 :thumbsup:

Don't make a statement you can't justify or back up. It wastes the time of people who are after informed and educated answers.

It also puts a negative spin on someones product with no proof.

It's quite simple.

AVO housing is not Garrett housing. There have been a number of results posted over the years that clearly show that butchered/Non-Garrett housings simply DO NOT WORK regardless of the claims.

By all means go and buy a rear housing that is too restrictive & have plenty of issues with it. All the while wondering why it wont perform.

You came here asking for advice, you were given it. If you don't think it's accurate and want believe the people trying to make a profit, then go for it. No one here is going to be wasting their money - only you.

Yea that's what I'm thinking haha so much to choose from yea I had a quick read about them before will wait for results .build won't be don't for a few weeks yet anyway is a .82 capable of 400awkw?

I made 427rwkw at 26psi.

+1 :thumbsup:

It's quite simple.

AVO housing is not Garrett housing. There have been a number of results posted over the years that clearly show that butchered/Non-Garrett housings simply DO NOT WORK regardless of the claims.

By all means go and buy a rear housing that is too restrictive & have plenty of issues with it. All the while wondering why it wont perform.

You came here asking for advice, you were given it. If you don't think it's accurate and want believe the people trying to make a profit, then go for it. No one here is going to be wasting their money - only you.

I need proof. I don't just listen and agree. Can't anyone point me in the direction of facts? A thread perhaps? I've done a search for well over an hour and found nothing negative. In fact I pmd a user with and Avo .73 on his gt3076r (pretty much same as gtx3071r) and he loves it.

He described how the power came on and when because he own one. No one else here can tell me the negatives to such detail. Just "it's not original garrette. It won't be as good".

That's not good enough in my book. "not tested enough to know an answer" etc is fair enough however.

I need proof. I don't just listen and agree. Can't anyone point me in the direction of facts? A thread perhaps? I've done a search for well over an hour and found nothing negative. In fact I pmd a user with and Avo .73 on his gt3076r (pretty much same as gtx3071r) and he loves it.

Lets put it a more logical way - why do you want to go with the Avo .73a/r housing when there is a housing option which is proven to get the most out of the GT3076R which comes with the turbo? For all I can tell you want to do it just because, because there is no logical reason I can think of. The turbo comes with the Garrett housing, its easy to get a dump pipe made up for it, and most importantly you KNOW its going to work.

Not saying the Avo housing won't - but why take the more difficult and expensive option when there is a known quantity? It doesn't make sense to me.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • So stock ECU does not like anything above 10 psi?  That Nistune one is just for "try" if it will be any different, I know it need to be tune for that. I know but YOU may know about these problem but i/we dont. They few little Skylines here let alone people who know anything about tham so that is why iam asking here  
    • So now we have a radiator with no attachments whatsoever. It lifts up with a particularly tight spot between the drivers side air box mount and the lower radiator outlet, but if you've got this far you will sort that too. This is the lower mounts with the rad out so you can see where the rubber bushes go, it is a straight shot upwards Done! Assembly is the reverse of disassembly, with blood less likely to be shed.
    • Right, onto the second last trick. The Air Con condenser is mounted to the front of the radiator and stays in the car when the radiator is removed. There are 2x 10mm headed self tappers holding the top of the condenser to the radiator, remove those The bottom of the condenser is attached to the radiator with clips. You need to lift the condenser out of those clips and clear (up, then forward). f**ked if  could work out how to do that last bit with the front bumper on. I hope you can, and you share the trick.  Bumper removal probably deserves its own thread one day once I've recovered the will to live, but basically you need to remove the wheels, front inner guard liners (clips and 10mm headed bolts), the self tapper between the guard and the bumper at the rearmost point of the bumper (same as an R32 that bit), any remaining clips at the top/front of the grill, an absolute bastard design with a plate that holds the top of the bumper above the headlight each side (only 1 bolt which is tricky to get to, but the plate catches 2 places on the bumper and must be removed....carefully!) and push clips between the bumper and guard under the headlight. If you've done all that you will be faced with wiring for the fog lights on both sides and in ADM Q50 RS at least, 4 nasty tight plugs on the driver's side for the ADAS stuff. So, the clips at the bottom look like this on drivers side (looking from the front) And on the passenger side (also from the front), you can see this one is already out Clearance on both of these are super tight; the condenser needs to move up but the upper rad support mount prevents that, and the radiator can't move down far because it is (rubber) mounted. Once you achieve the impossible and drop the condenser off those mounts so it does not stop the rad moving, you are good to go
    • OK, next the shroud needs to come off and there are a couple of tricks. Firstly, there is a loom from near the passenger side headlight to the fans, coolant temp sensor etc and there is no plug to undo.  In my case I was OK to leave the shroud on top of the engine so I just undid the passenger side fan plug and about 10 of the clips which gave enough free wire to put it aside. The fan plugs were super tight, the trick I used was a small falt screwdriver to push down on the release tab, then a larger flat screwdriver to lever the plug out of the fan unit....be careful with how much force you apply! If you need to remove the shroud altogether for some reason you will have to deal with all the plugs (tight) and clips (brittle)....good luck. I removed all of the clips and replaced them with cable ties that I will just cut next time. Also, in the Red Sport / 400R at least, the intake heat exchanger reservoir hose is bolted to the shroud in 2 places with 10mm headed bolts; so remove them (the hose stays in the car; no need to undo it at the t fittings down at the radiator lower mount. Once you've dealt with the HX hose and the wiring loom, there are 3x 10mm headed self tappers holding the top of the shroud to the radiator; remove those.   The shroud then lifts out of the bottom mounts where it sits on the radiator, up and onto the engine out of the way. Simples
    • Ok, disregard my “rate them” comment, sorry for my unrealistic input
×
×
  • Create New...