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Pirelli can build a good race tyre. Unfortunately they were told by the FIA to build a shit race tyre, which is what they have done. So that, combined with the DRS & KERS gives people something to bang on about. Which atleast serves to hide the fact that the integrity, soul and general whole purpose of F1 has been destroyed in the name of getting people with generally NFI to watch a race.

They can basically take their crap tyres, their fake overtaking, their hopelessly compromised energy recovery systems & all the other junk & shove it.*

Amen.

feel sory for webber he'd probably dominate if it wasnt for vettel

So far he's finished 5th, 4th, 3rd, 2nd, and 4th. My maths isn't great, but take one guy out of that mix and I still don't see him dominating...

So far he's finished 5th, 4th, 3rd, 2nd, and 4th. My maths isn't great, but take one guy out of that mix and I still don't see him dominating...

yeh but consistent finishes like that throughout the season would 'usually' be good enough to secure a championship no? perhaps with a couple of 1sts in the mix. Dont the first 8 score points in lowering order from 1st back?

also isnt there a lot of talk that vettel gets priorety treatments/car parts etc?

yeh but consistent finishes like that throughout the season would 'usually' be good enough to secure a championship no? perhaps with a couple of 1sts in the mix. Dont the first 8 score points in lowering order from 1st back?

also isnt there a lot of talk that vettel gets priorety treatments/car parts etc?

lots of talk yes, but I dont think it has been substansiated yet

yeh but consistent finishes like that throughout the season would 'usually' be good enough to secure a championship no? perhaps with a couple of 1sts in the mix. Dont the first 8 score points in lowering order from 1st back?

Remove Vettel entirely and it would be:

Ham 96

Web 85

But 78

Alo 63

That might look like Mark dominating to some of his one-eyed fans

And that doesn't factor in whoever would be driving the other Red Bull car if Vettel wasn't, or what Vettel's results would be in a different car... With Some of Mark's results, just about any other decent F1 driver in a Red Bull would have beaten him a few times this year.

also isnt there a lot of talk that vettel gets priorety treatments/car parts etc?

other than the wing last year, that was a dubvious performance adbvantage at best, there's no credible reports of less favourable treatment or parts for Webber.

Edited by hrd-hr30

Points system has changed Alex...Top 10 score now

1st - 25

2nd - 18

3rd - 15

4th - 12

5th - 10

6th - 8

7th - 6

8th - 4

9th - 2

10th - 1

Rewards winners more than it used to in order to stop people being so willing to 'settle' for 2nd place etc..

Webber had his chance to win a WDC and he fucked it. He'll never be a WDC now, short of Vettel/Hamilton not racing anymore this year

I was only saying the other day that I think I actually like Hamilton now... then i go and read this ... http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/6950922/Hamilton-hopes-to-close-the-gap

Right now he is back to his c0ck gargling ways of yesteryear...come on Button smach the little poser!

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/05/tight-monaco-grand-prix-in-prospect-strategists-say/

"The super soft Pirelli tyre, which makes its debut this weekend, is expected to last around 8 laps in the opening stint"

are they serious? 8 laps!

might be worth a wager on the first of the driver's who start on primes.

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