World Time Attack Challenge 2011

[Beer Baron]

Im curious to see what these air jacks look like that SSE and Cyber were using, does anyone have pics please?

Yeah I do. Will post at some point. Only SSE's were gas powered. Cyber put little scissor jacks into the base of theirs. Very clever and cheaper but not as fast/easy to use.

[9krpm]

Does anyone know who sell those air jack?

GB on those would be awesome

[handbrake]

for those of you who like to avoid the banter on the R35 section, here is Tarzan doing his best to battle the understeer on his hotlap. understeer was the winner on this occasion but we will be working on that for next year

[JAGR33]

Found this article, worth reading regarding pro class controversies....

http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/articletype/articleview/articleid/2073/world-time-attack-challenge-2011-pro-class-controversies.aspx

Handbrake - congrats on the result mate you should be proud, some more testing and the car will be a serious contender next year....

[sav man]

interesting info about the tyres. Looks like Berry should get his tyres out of Japan.

Bit harsh calling Glenny Alonso though.... although might be worth trying to get it to stick at the next rally event

[Duncan]

lol, I guess they don't get Wilfred in Seppo land.

Interesting article, I'd like to see the equivalent from each of the other top teams. For those that haven't read it, it says "We weren't trying to hide anything, we have some trick cylinder head and run 40psi boost, and we imply but don't say that everyone else is cheating but we are clean"

[FineLine]

How do you cheat when there are basically no rules. Other than a nitrous setup Which should be detectable to a scrutineer there are no limitations to engine mods to my knowledge.

As for tyres, if a tyre maker offerred me some secret squirrel donuts not available to the competition that would give me an edge in that department you can bet your heiny I would take them.

I'll lay london to a brick that a lot of the top compeitors have their dirty little secrets they are unwilling to share with anybody.

[Duncan]

of course...everyone is spending big and won't want to share the results of that spend....nothing different about the top level of time attack to any other category.

their specific implications (not accusations I said) were around tyres not being purchased commercially from local supliers, and tube frame cars.

[FineLine]

The tube frame issue is going to be an ongoing bone of contention until the promotor lays down some hard and fasts. I dont have an opinion on it either way as I know bugger all about it but it needs to be nipped in the bud before it becomes a major issue.

How long will it be before there is a major rule shakeup, what we are seeing now is a repeat of what has happenned in other forms of motor sport right from the top down. Cars became so powerful and fast it became a health hazard to drive them.

Its only a matter of time before we start seeing 1000 plus hp setups if time attack conitnues at its current rate of development.

[Duncan]

agreed...unfortunately. Especially if they stay at Eastern Creek where power + aero will really pay off.

I don't understand the tube frame restriction at all. If you can have tube frame front and rear ends (where it really matters), allowing total freedom of suspension mounting locations and geometery, why not have a tube frame body as well? The only difference in a tube frame body would be some weight saving.

The other benefit for tube frame would be closer match to sports sedan rules (as long as they are 2wd), so these cars could be used more than once a year.

[Risking]

CAMS have defined a space frame chassis in the 3D regulations.

Basically A 2wd floor pan vehicle must retain, roof, pillars, door sills and the majority of the factory floor pan.

Mods to tunnels etc are permitted.

As Duncan and I have argued awd rules suck the arse ad are not worth mentioning.

A space frame Is a tube chassis which non load bearing coach work is attached.

So tube extensions are fine providing the floor pan etc remains. Can't see how the TG s14 is going to retain the oem floor pan etc.......

It's a space frame just as my R34 is too.

I dont think many of the current running cars break the "space frame" rule. But there is a few cars being built that 100% do.

The majority of the running cars are " heavy metal" sports sedans.

Which seems like a great category to now go and race a skyline!!

[T04GTR]

ok, simple. just have a seperate class for all the "tube work" modified cars. at least those of us that cant afford to hack the front and rear of our cars will have a more leval playing field.

hell im all for seeing 1000+hp cars, would be a good spectical and im half temped to do a e3 wide body now.... needs the rubber under there..

may aswell take a leaf from the 80's super silluette formula. the cars wont look much differant. all thats needed is factory roof,and doors and floor. the rest is free.

go nuts i say. these were made in the early 80's. i rekon with todays materials and tech a s15 or gtr with a similar design using 13" wheels front a rear will put down a good time id pay the entry fee to go watch it

[fatz]

i didnt even attend however i did start the rumour that the food at ec is shit and would give you nitrous powered gas!

[waxracing]

i didnt even attend however i did start the rumour that the food at ec is shit and would give you nitrous powered gas!

You were spot on, the food at the yuckshop was terrible

[FineLine]

And over priced. simple answer, I'll take my own next time.

[Beer Baron]

food was actually reported as being many times better than previous years. i didn't eat any though as cyber/voltex had catered lunches and kindly donated some my way. dunno where they got their food from but it was bloody good.

[benm]

Reported? Lol

Frozen hot dogs and half cooked chips have been served since the day EC opened, nothing has changed.

Coulda made a killing with the sau:nsw bbq!

[Beer Baron]

well yeah dagwood dog/pluto pup/corn dog is a sure fire licence to drive the porcelain bus (and yes I get sucked in and buy one now and then) but I saw people eating some burgers etc that looked pretty decent. I'd not seen that stuff before.

[Beer Baron]

off the track a bit but probably the best race-track for food i've been to is fuji speedway. nice choice of options there and they serve beers too (with a cool auto beer vending machine/robot).

[N1GTR]

As always, the oportos on the highway was a good feed on both days and not as far away as you'd think