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GTScotT Grand Master

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Im pretty sure all the Kando options come with the Kamak performance thrust bearing - so that shouldnt be a worry.

However Stao has managed a good thing with the aero on his billet wheels, and I know he has applied that to a T67 along the way. The threads now bleed into eachother in many areas.

Anyone wanting a T67 would want to read the Hypergear thread also as I think he back to backs his billet T67 against another customers normal T67.

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My 30DET is now running TDO6H 25G, budget build with Hybrid manifold and 50mm Turbosmart gate. Turbine is the 11 blade option with 12cm housing. Tighe camshafts correctly dialled. Track car, chasin

R31Nismoid
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And r33_racer or whatever also had around that figure too? Maybe it was 380? (struggling to recall)

T04GTR
T04GTR

are theese rubbish china turbos with a badge thats made in japan?

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hypergear Grand Master

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The billet compressor wheel if made into identical specification as cast wheel the difference is almost none exist.

The compressor wheel can only make a difference, with alterations to its wheel blade profile, hub profile. Those are possible because the billet material is stronger then cast, while the standard cast item is very conservative in its design for reliability. In this case compressor wheel names don't necessarily be matching its cast output, It is very possible that we can produce a 20G compressor wheel that matches the 25G's efficiency.

My goal in customized turbo design is in scarifies the least amount of resource for most of out put. Means greater area under power curve within usable rev range, and this is archiveble with customized compressor wheel and housings. Make a perfect compressor wheel comes into a lot of evaluations, the current 25G compressor wheel is the very first prototype yet to be trailed till tuner gets back. I'll be trying to get this turbocharger upto the 400rwkws on stock cams while reaching it below 7000RPMs.

Frosty Grand Master

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Make a perfect compressor wheel comes into a lot of evaluations, the current 25G compressor wheel is the very first prototype yet to be trailed till tuner gets back. I'll be trying to get this turbocharger upto the 400rwkws on stock cams while reaching it below 7000RPMs.

now this bit interests me :) keen for the results on this...

hypergear Grand Master

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The 25G comp wheel is in 78mm, its bit large for the turbine end and I'm very interested to know what sort of EGT you guys are getting as I've received couple of emails in relation of replacing cracked and broken T67 turbine wheels since the start of TDxx developments. But have not seen any using the 20G compressor setup.

I might want to reduce it to 74~76mms with a slightly lower blade profile for better torque and power within 7000RPMs rev range and lower EGT depending on how this one goes.

ARTZ Grand Master

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Yeh I'd be taking a hypergear option over a kando if I was looking today... Have a look at the SS2 ex gate results, it seems to make the power earlier on then fall off around 6500 where as the T67 dosen't seem to reach full potential until 7500 and beyond.. so realistically for a car with a stock rev limit I think the hypergear is the smarter option??

Kando is cheaper I think? but you get much better service before and after sale with the hypergear.

hey something just hit me, all the t67 results we have seen posted have been with Greddy style plenums...these are renowned for losing midrange torque while all the HG results we have seen are with a stock plenum and runners...

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looking at the chart and thats exactly where the power is missing...@ around 7000rpm it has caught up again and we know it will keep pulling to 8000rpm +....where HG turbo has well and truely fallen over...

So im gunna say im not yet convinced and the only way we can really solve this is to run a t67 with stock intake....any takers ;)

battery Mentor

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dont think so....thought he stole yours...

Yeh just had a look again looks like it was josh typeX results.. So you have a good point then, still a pretty big difference though! i'd certainly go back to the stock plenum if it helped the midrange to match that HG lol

ARTZ Grand Master

ARTZ

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has anybody tried the TD03-7g

i know this guy with a daewoo matiz..800cc 3 cylinders of lame supercar destroying awesomeness....do you think this will work should be good for at least 80hp yeah?

http://www.ebay.com....=item43b72c1729

I also found a gt15 for half the price good for 100-200hp..might be a little large though

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Years ago, my mate fitted a Nissan Terrano turbo to his suzuki cappuccino, went hard on 20+psi with computer/injectors/bigger cooler

I have no idea what turbo is on them

edit: i did a quick google...loooks like it had a garrett Gt2052 on it..was fun, big ramp onto boost

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AngryRB Grand Master

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The 25G comp wheel is in 78mm, its bit large for the turbine end and I'm very interested to know what sort of EGT you guys are getting as I've received couple of emails in relation of replacing cracked and broken T67 turbine wheels since the start of TDxx developments. But have not seen any using the 20G compressor setup.

I might want to reduce it to 74~76mms with a slightly lower blade profile for better torque and power within 7000RPMs rev range and lower EGT depending on how this one goes.

I havnt read all the pages but wondering what kando turbo would suit a 4L falcon if any, and would a kando give much flow in comparison to its competitors garrett and precision turbos if ran at under 10psi or are they similar to a gtx and needs minimum 20psi to feel them working.

hypergear Grand Master

hypergear

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Ford XR6 runs of a 82mm comp with a 1.06 turbine it is physically larger on both compressor and turbine end you need to run a much bigger turbo. years ago we've made a customized turbo based a GT45 1.26 twinscroll turbine and Garrett BRD351 compressor that have see 458rwkws on a Ford XR6 turbo with pretty good response.

AngryRB Grand Master

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Ford XR6 runs of a 82mm comp with a 1.06 turbine it is physically larger on both compressor and turbine end you need to run a much bigger turbo. years ago we've made a customized turbo based a GT45 1.26 twinscroll turbine and Garrett BRD351 compressor that have see 458rwkws on a Ford XR6 turbo with pretty good response.

that sounds impressive, but mines a daily driver and looking for a cheap setup with high response and working with stock auto so somthing like 200-240kw max on 8psi , will the kando turbo's do this or are they needing alot of boost?

hypergear Grand Master

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that sounds impressive, but mines a daily driver and looking for a cheap setup with high response and working with stock auto so somthing like 200-240kw max on 8psi , will the kando turbo's do this or are they needing alot of boost?

All you need is a stock BA XR6 internally gated turbo. We've built one for a Auto Falcon last year made 311rwkws E85 with 11psi of boost, close to no lag.

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hey something just hit me, all the t67 results we have seen posted have been with Greddy style plenums...these are renowned for losing midrange torque while all the HG results we have seen are with a stock plenum and runners...

looking at the chart and thats exactly where the power is missing...@ around 7000rpm it has caught up again and we know it will keep pulling to 8000rpm +....where HG turbo has well and truely fallen over...

So im gunna say im not yet convinced and the only way we can really solve this is to run a t67 with stock intake....any takers ;)

Mine has the stock manifold, i'll try and get the dyno sheet off the tuner.

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Low Mount E85 std motor with drop in Cammtech cams. This was the first aussie car with kando T67 4-5 years ago and its still going strong.

more info https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151011723791813&set=a.10150265368356813.328814.728171812&type=3&src=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash4%2F192602_10151011723791813_578569909_o.jpg&smallsrc=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash4%2F320413_10151011723791813_578569909_n.jpg&size=1632%2C1224

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