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Anyone know a rough cost of getting a rocker cover gasket done, mines leaking like a mother f**ker ?

Maybe 200-ish?

Best to ring a workshop or 2 and ask.

lol I thought you hated leftist beliefs...

Gambling silently destroys peoples lives and those around them without killing them = infinitely worse IMO. The only reason it isn't illegal, like everything else openly accepted as a negative thing, is because of tax. Oh wait, I forgot about cigarettes...plenty of tax in that too.

I play blackjack at the cas once in a while but honestly couldn't give a shit if it was illegal. If nothing else at least ban pokies.

lol I thought you hated leftist beliefs...

Gambling silently destroys peoples lives and those around them without killing them = infinitely worse IMO. The only reason it isn't illegal, like everything else openly accepted as a negative thing, is because of tax. Oh wait, I forgot about cigarettes...plenty of tax in that too.

I play blackjack at the cas once in a while but honestly couldn't give a shit if it was illegal. If nothing else at least ban pokies.

I do (come at me Ali lol) .... my point was that for every Birds who wants gambling b&, there's an old dorry who hates performance cars

I don't really gamble, might throw a few bucks on roulette once in a blue moon... but banning = slippery slope to other bullshit. Perhaps I'm biased cos I'm not a knob who has wasted his life savings on the pokies (which are f**king boring as batshit btw, surely pissing your money away at the strippers is better?), but whatever

gambling? meh i don't mind people being stupid enough to blow their money aslong as i don't know them/care for them

lotto though, i'm sure there are better uses for those $20mill rather than just giving em to 1 person for no reason what so ever

I do (come at me Ali lol) .... my point was that for every Birds who wants gambling b&, there's an old dorry who hates performance cars

I don't really gamble, might throw a few bucks on roulette once in a blue moon... but banning = slippery slope to other bullshit. Perhaps I'm biased cos I'm not a knob who has wasted his life savings on the pokies (which are f**king boring as batshit btw, surely pissing your money away at the strippers is better?), but whatever

I don't agree entirely with the slippery slope thing. There's tons of shit that is illegal nowadays and once wasn't, doesn't mean we have lost or will lose every right we have. Problem with taking rights away from people is, it could be the right to eat shit and if you take it away they will be pissed.

Gambling isn't exactly a civil liberty though, these pokies and table games were invented to take advantage of the human condition. At some point you gotta say people can't be trusted to look after themselves, for the same reason we aren't allowed to do any speed we want on the roads. Should be treated like heroin IMO...

+1 Engineering aint cheap :(

How'd you manage that? Must have gone up after I finished

Can you build sentry guns yet Pat?

I did robotics and software - should cover sentry guns quite nicely

I don't agree entirely with the slippery slope thing. There's tons of shit that is illegal nowadays and once wasn't, doesn't mean we have lost or will lose every right we have. Problem with taking rights away from people is, it could be the right to eat shit and if you take it away they will be pisses.

Gambling isn't exactly a civil liberty though, these pokies and table games were invented to take advantage of the human condition. At some point you gotta say people can't be trusted to look after themselves, for the same reason we aren't allowed to do any speed we want on the roads. Should be treated like heroine IMO...

Fair point, I'm just hesitant to call for banning things that CAN be enjoyed reasonably and safely (alcohol, cars are common targets that I happen to enjoy).... why should I have to potentially suffer cos some dipshit can't control himself/herself at the pokies etc?

I would distinguish heroin as I would argue it's much worse for oneself than gambling

Well yeah it was an extreme example, but consider that drugs and gambling aren't so different when one is addicted, people do anything and everything they can to get their fix of it until their life is destroyed. I might be biased here because I've seen the gambling consequences first hand from a family member, but having seen that I'm also aware of the destruction it can cause within a family, that we don't really consider when we walk through a casino.

And I agree we shouldn't have to forego our fun because some idiots can't be responsible, sure would be a nice gesture of altruism though. It's a small price to pay to save a lot of families. What annoys me is that there have been no effective solutions to stop problem gambling because it's not in a government's interest to do so.

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