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Deffs not mad , I got mates who did 4 years of uni running 300-400mjllion dollar sites and the laborer earns more. That's is not a sustainable business model

I think the wages will tumble the pipeline of work is tiny so you will have way more workers than projects so people will bid lower for contracts profit margins get squeezed from top to bottom gold coast is a good example - not a single crane in the sky.

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Haha zebra out of nowhere with the Lols

haha ye hence why im about to quit IT and open a business in the hospitality area :merli:

oh god really? why.... for the love of god WHY!!!!!!!

Deffs not mad , I got mates who did 4 years of uni running 300-400mjllion dollar sites and the laborer earns more. That's is not a sustainable business model

I think the wages will tumble the pipeline of work is tiny so you will have way more workers than projects so people will bid lower for contracts profit margins get squeezed from top to bottom gold coast is a good example - not a single crane in the sky.

I tend to agree with al here... it happened with chef's over the years. if people are willing to work for less the wages will all eventually crumble. The union's think that industrial action will save them, but in reality it's just a temporary solution and will eventually head the push for more and more sites to use non unionised builders.

Strikes cant last if the strikers aren't getting paid anyway, and people like grollo (who has on many occasions used non union builders) know this. he will just wait. afterall he can afford to lose as much money as it takes during the strike, whereas the builders can not.

You'd be amazed how people will change their moral stance on things like strikes or doing jobs that they feel are beneath them when we tell them they have 31 days before we foreclose on their house.

people like accountants etc that eat at successful restaurants regularly and see the owners strutting around eating, drinking having a good time etc get very misled about the hospitality industry.

They think that their office jobs are "long hours" and "tiring" that owning a restaurant will be an awesome lifestyle change, and it is, but only by the 1940's definition of awesome. :rofl:

In reality they spend their life savings on a poorly thought out restaurant, spend the next 3 years doing 100 hour weeks and stressing like they have never stressed before, and then losing everything when the place closes down.

end of the day, it's a VERY small margin of new restaurants that even survive, let alone do well.

Hospitality in Melbourne is the pure definition of an over saturated market. If you find a new niche and exploit it at the right moment, it IS possible to make serious money, but it's HARD work and very unlikely.

I know Ash probably doens't want to read this but unfortunatley it's how it is.

Ash, if you need any advice on this, you have my number

Bovis Lend Lease (I'm working on an LL site) held out for about a week, then they caved.

Grocon held on a bit longer but they gave in as well

exactly... it's just not possible unless you are managing to have money come in while you are striking...

also we are talking about people that run like little girls at the first sign of a few drops of rain... how much resolve can they really have? :P

exactly... it's just not possible unless you are managing to have money come in while you are striking...

also we are talking about people that run like little girls at the first sign of a few drops of rain... how much resolve can they really have? :P

You seem to be misunderstanding...

The builders caved, the CFMEU won the fight against Bovis, and Grocon backflipped accepting the talks that they turned down a few weeks earlier because they didn't think the strike would last.

I'll happily work in the rain, if it's safe to do so, but our EBA says we don't have to, so we don't. Morons take that as being soft.

get home at 5am, neighbour cuts grass at 7am....

my neighbour does shit like this as well 6:30am sunday decides its time to start installing sleepers with circular saws and a massive f**k of bolt hammer(god know why he needs it) I had enough last time and went out side and told him i'll be calling the council if it continues.

i dont mind if its kids playing in the back yard n shit - they're kids. but when your a f**king adult. next time my draw full of fireworks will be aimed at his house.

You've not lived till you've had Ash's Wang burger.

or is it you won't live after having the Wang burger.

meh

haha yeah cooking for 100 people on the DECA "BBQ" isn't the easiest thing in the world

Nice! What's the plan or can't reveal much at this stage?

As for tradies I rkn they are in a massive pay bubble cannot see long term sustainability of the wages, more so commercial sites

All will be revealed shortly.

Still a bit of legal to finish off - it's a good thing, a lot of homework has been done.

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