E85/eflex And Oil Choice

[GTR_JOEY]

My Borg Warner is plain bearing.. Has done well over 10,000 Kms by now.. Originally using royal purple but the last 5-6 thousand has been the valvoline racing formula 50

[GTR_JOEY]

Boosting as high as 2 bar

[Frosty]

seen no adverse issues on PB turbos with E85 in high boost applications... Care to elaborate more roy?

[Roy]

In passing I have read on US-UK forums that with E85 boost pressures have all gone through the roof and unless you are running a racing oil with loads of zinc and phosphorous then you will find that 2bar on a bush bearing turbo will end up with poor lifespan of the turbo.

Since moving to Melb 8 years ago I have always run Castrol Edge but am tempted to revert back to Mobil 1 Racing...depsite it being a head fark to source

[Frosty]

interesting....could be due to lack of oil change as E85 breaks down the oil pretty quick due to moisture etc etc but honestly havent read of any adverse affects of this..

[scotty nm35]

It would depend more on the design and material of the thrust washer, and whether the oem oil restrictor banjo was opened up enough or replaced.

[Roy]

There was something I read somewhere that they stripped the turbos after heavy dyno running and holding under heavy load in top gear and the oils that are full of fluff for highway emmissions and economy, even the premium street oils resulted in heavy fouling around the bearing and discolouration of the bearings. The turbos didnt fail...just said they were showing all the signs of increased wear after only some rather sever dyno pulls and loading.

[Simon-S14]

i also run this with my oil.. mainly cause i get it cheap and ive heard some fantastic things from it.

have been running my stock bottom end RB30e with 26 head and supporting mods pushing 400 rwkw for a year now, its a competition drift car so loads of sustained rpm. I had the motor out recently to do rear main and few other seals and i pulled the sump off to chuck a washer in the stock oil pump spring to bump the pressure up a bit and while i was at it i checked a couple of bearings. they were mirror finish perfect pretty much so i figure the oil + additive must be doing something right!

[copycutter]

How does it work simon?

[Simon-S14]

what do you mean how does it work? you pour it in with your oil. its an additive.

makes oil go a weird grey colour,

[copycutter]

As in what about it makes it more safe for high revs and load than normal oil?

Edited April 6, 2013 by copycutter

[Simon-S14]

i dont know the exact science behind it but its a anti friction compound with a host of other things to prevent wear under demanding conditions. maybe someone else can shed some light?

im in no way endorsed by the company... just sharing my experiences with the product

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

there is a video tutorial narrated by SAU's own Andrew Hawkins on the website of you are really interested

[discopotato03]

Short of time ATM but if you do lots of net research , who sleeps at night anyway , the story looks like this .

The GREEN slimes of this world are paranoid that good anti wear additives ie ZDDP end up coating and killing cat converters over time so these are slowly being reduced in oils intended for "Modern Engines" so be wary when you see this on oil containers .

Long short , diesel engines because of their high torque low rev nature create very high loadings on their bearings and gudgeon pins etc so they need good anti wear additives . When you look into diesel specific oils they appear to have lots of what we need and it doesn't necessarily have to be mega expensive like Ripco bought Mobil 1 .

Remember how many Yank sites have been praising things like shell Rotella T6 5W40 ? Mobil and others make similar kinds of things and whilst not $20 cheap it aint 70 - 100 either . Means you can afford to change it more often .

Bacon force can't know whats in your sump and I wouldn't think the RTA/EPA is likely to sample it either .

Do some reading on (I think) CJ4 and CI4 rated oils and don't be afraid if it leads you to a diseasel spec oil . I'm sure most of you lie awake at night stressing about your cat ...

A .

I did see it recently but didn't get time to search for a product called ZDDPlus . Worth a look .

[Frosty]

i also run this with my oil.. mainly cause i get it cheap and ive heard some fantastic things from it.

have been running my stock bottom end RB30e with 26 head and supporting mods pushing 400 rwkw for a year now, its a competition drift car so loads of sustained rpm. I had the motor out recently to do rear main and few other seals and i pulled the sump off to chuck a washer in the stock oil pump spring to bump the pressure up a bit and while i was at it i checked a couple of bearings. they were mirror finish perfect pretty much so i figure the oil + additive must be doing something right!

Funny you say about additives as not many people use them but i run the Morey's Oil Stabilizer. Best thing since sliced bread!

I ran the liqui moly and it blew the seals in my 3037 within 10mins or running it. Didnt get the car out of the driveway

[Simon-S14]

must have been a bad coincidence or something mate. no issues with my garret since running this stuff.

[discopotato03]

Have a read of this thread because it starts out with GM supposedly debunking the myths of flat tappet cams and ZDDP . MAKE sure you read it ALL because a group of open minded engineers and a group of Porsche people tell the truth about the GM mugs rubbish spiel .

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1049812

My experience with oils containing higher levels of ZDDP is that the Mobil 1 4T racing bike oils work well but you get a little more valve train noise in a 4G63T and to a slight degree in an RB25 . The mileages on these engines is 140K and 115K .

ATM I need more oil so I'm off to GL Lubricants to stock up on more Shell Rotella T6 5w40 . I've used it with no issues at all and it leads to a quieter valve train which can't be a bad thing .

Take note of the content of the above mentioned thread re detergent oils and how far back some urban myths about oil go .

Cheers A .

[Roy]

I am still chasing Mobil for where I can get Mobil 1 Racing 0W50.

Will have a read of that link tonight

[discopotato03]

The Mobil 1 bike stuff - 4T Racing 15W50 you can get from GL Lubricants in Sydney .

A .

[tranman]

Hi Guys,

Came across this in Wheels Magazine, and a further look at their website:

http://www.nulon.com.au/products/Full_Synthetic_Engine_Oils/Full_Synthetic_10W-60_Extreme_Engine_Oil/#.UXFGO73EvqU

Fully Synthetic, API SN (Ethanol protection) and aimed at Performance or Race tuned engines. Australian Made and Looks like a winner. Any one heard of used this> Your thoughts?