So Will Sau Folk Still Refuse To Watch V8 Supercars

[mad082]

I was watching a NASCAR race the other day... 165MPH... Slowest corner on the track... Top speeds around 185MPH...

Fucking NUTS!!!

must've been a short track. the big ovals they will hit well over 200mph. top speed i've seen was near on 210mph (over 335kmh)

nascar has moved to efi.

the sprint cup race i watched a few weeks back had a bit of a tech thing on it and the car they were showing then didn't have an ecu. they said it didn't even have a fuel sensor.

[zebra]

the long tracks like Daytona Talledega etc the cars have restrictor plates fitted!

[mad082]

the average lap speed for pole position at the 2012 daytona 500 was over 194mph, even with restrictor plates. race lap speed is higher because of drafting. but the corners there aren't that sharp. they still sit on around 190mph through the corners, and hit just under 200mph at the end of the straights. at tracks like texas they don't run restrictors. they drop down to 175mph in the corners but get back up to just under 200mph. they also rev up to nearly 10000rpm at texas, while daytona they only rev up to around 9000rpm (because they are flat to the floor pretty much the whole time)

the daytona lap record though is from 1987 though, with an average speed of over 210mph. pretty good for a dirty old v8, lol

[MBS206]

must've been a short track. the big ovals they will hit well over 200mph. top speed i've seen was near on 210mph (over 335kmh)

the sprint cup race i watched a few weeks back had a bit of a tech thing on it and the car they were showing then didn't have an ecu. they said it didn't even have a fuel sensor.

No idea what track it was, but even my ass puckered up a bit when one of the guys exited a corner in a massive slide... And held it...

They were only revving to a bit over 9K from what I was seeing. Around 9.5 IIRC.

[Nee-san]

must've been a short track. the big ovals they will hit well over 200mph. top speed i've seen was near on 210mph (over 335kmh)

the sprint cup race i watched a few weeks back had a bit of a tech thing on it and the car they were showing then didn't have an ecu. they said it didn't even have a fuel sensor.

They are going EFI next year I believe.

One thing you can say about nascar is they have remained faithful to the formula.

NEK MINNIT

All spec car series are shit.

EOB.

[Roy]

On the engine front... it has been reported in AA that the KR-Nissan-Nismo engine team have signed off on the powerplant.They have chosen the 5.6L DOHC V8 engine as used in the Nissan GT-R GT1 project in Japan.

How they go about reducing the capacity to 5L or less is anybodies guess. I assume they will sleeve it down rather then throw in a new crank but who knows.

Holden look to be preferring a Chev crate engine on the basis of cost. So you have Nissan running high tech, ridgey didge race motor, with twin cams, 4 valves per cylinder and lots of modern race design nice to haves VS Holden looking for a cheap crate Chev engine to build and spec up.

I am guessing the Chevs are going to get some extra displacement if they are to have a hope of matching the Nissan in anything resembling a short sprint event.

Seems odd that Ford and Holden are contemplating an engine change. Surely the change to COTF is expensive enough in the short term without taking on engine development

And Rick Kelly is off to the USA for a car show to promote the Altima...so I guess thats what will be wearing Jack Daniels war paint next year

[zebra]

Ford has a tasty 5L 32 valve engine they have been using in grand am sports cars for a few years. Making an easy 500hp in near standard trim

That series works well with Porsche, Lexus, ford, chev etc all running spec engines producing the same performance

Would be easy to implement for the supercars out here

[sav man]

I thought I read somwhere that Nissan had a 4.6l &5.0l version of their quad cam

Edited April 3, 2012 by sav man

[Roy]

Road car engines maybe. Seems they are looking to what they already have developed as a race engine to cut developments costs

[zebra]

Be interesting to see unravel.

Anyone know what the GT1 spec Nissan donk power/rev wise

I also find it funny that Holden went to the HMS engine because the chevs were down on power compared to the D3 headed Fords. But now they want to go back to chev after all the money spent on copying the ford motor and creating tooling/machinery to cast them

I would like to see ford adopt the FR9 and detune it down from NASCAR spec that way the Holden guys could run the current 13deg chevs and would open the gates for Toyota and Chrysler

[MattR]

http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2012/medium-passenger/nissan/new-york-motor-show-nissan-altima-the-latest-v8-supercar-29570

car and engine confirmed

[zebra]

Interesting

*waits for Rick Kelly to start whinging about being off the pace and down on power in the first season with a brand new car, and that there needs to be more parity*

[DivHunter]

http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/new-nissan-to-debut-on-track-20120404-1wbka.html

Someone should probably tell Nissan you don't go into motorsport to make money.

Also, what if they don't win a single race?

[zebra]

Win on Sunday sell on Monday?.......if they win

But seriously, no-one in the market for an Altima will give two shits about v8 supercars

[Shell]

Yes I saw today it was an Altima after all..... Duncan you were WRONG... WROOOOOOOOOOONG

haha

thank god it's not a Fuga though

[Duncan]

lol. the shame. that's twice this week I've been wrong

Unless I've missed the point, the altima is a fwd shitbox that is going to replace maxima in the road going line up? The replacement for a bluebird...or a 200b?

I wonder if nissan oz are aware of a model in their JDM lineup called "skyline"

[boxheadmr]

looks like the V8's will be back at Eastern Creek in August this year,

[MBS206]

I like the fact that they're claiming it has more road going parts than the other two...

Yet, they're changing the floor pan, and a completely different engine to what you can really buy at the dealership...

Also, Duncan, are they making a 4 door Skyline at the moment?

[Nee-san]

looks like the V8's will be back at Eastern Creek in August this year,

Yes, will be good to see them back at the creek especially with the time attack cars being there later in the year too !

[Sir Lord Van Von Vader'ham]

the altima pic with photoshopped JD warpaint

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-news/now-for-nissan-special-vehicles-20120407-1whnq.html