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300kw-320rwkw easy??? spent about 25k on performance parts an labour to get 300kw atw. Prob cheaper if u find a happy dyno or dont tie the car down real tight to allow it to ride up, from wot i've been told it can make the exact same dyno read about 50-80hp different, depending on how u strap it down. As for the longivity of an engine's life (built or unopened) people usually only seem to quote a certain amount of years/months which isnt really informative, amount of track time, km since rebuilt, %of time driving the car spirited (or over 5-6k rpm) would be more informaitive. as a car that only does 3000km a year an 1 track day, an gets babied, is a lot different to a car that does 20,000km a year a 4 or 5 trackdays a year an gets thrashed every time it gets drivin.

I'll point at Simon and leave it at that ;)

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300kw-320rwkw easy??? spent about 25k on performance parts an labour to get 300kw atw. Prob cheaper if u find a happy dyno or dont tie the car down real tight to allow it to ride up, from wot i've been told it can make the exact same dyno read about 50-80hp different, depending on how u strap it down. As for the longivity of an engine's life (built or unopened) people usually only seem to quote a certain amount of years/months which isnt really informative, amount of track time, km since rebuilt, %of time driving the car spirited (or over 5-6k rpm) would be more informaitive. as a car that only does 3000km a year an 1 track day, an gets babied, is a lot different to a car that does 20,000km a year a 4 or 5 trackdays a year an gets thrashed every time it gets drivin.

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300kw-320rwkw easy??? spent about 25k on performance parts an labour to get 300kw atw. Prob cheaper if u find a happy dyno or dont tie the car down real tight to allow it to ride up, from wot i've been told it can make the exact same dyno read about 50-80hp different, depending on how u strap it down. As for the longivity of an engine's life (built or unopened) people usually only seem to quote a certain amount of years/months which isnt really informative, amount of track time, km since rebuilt, %of time driving the car spirited (or over 5-6k rpm) would be more informaitive. as a car that only does 3000km a year an 1 track day, an gets babied, is a lot different to a car that does 20,000km a year a 4 or 5 trackdays a year an gets thrashed every time it gets drivin.

Give me 25k and ill build you a 500kw+ engine lol, also you'd be lucky to gain 15hp by letting it ride on the top of the rollers, easier to put the air temp sensor in hot water and gain 30kw =)

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Give me 25k and ill build you a 500kw+ engine lol, also you'd be lucky to gain 15hp by letting it ride on the top of the rollers, easier to put the air temp sensor in hot water and gain 30kw =)

With warranty? Wheres your shop, I want this 25k 500kw motor

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I'd say VQ35HR, then TT (with 2 x 2860).

It will take 50kg out of the front of the car, have more power and torque and last longer. But you'll have to build it first.

I don't see much between a Neo and a RB26 for power/longevity. I'd take a stock NEO for the money with GT30 (0.86) ~280rwkw easy. Once you get over 200rwkw/tonne you're getting into serious grip/chassis issues.

what chassis issues would be ran into? for example a gts4 with a rb26 making 350 atw

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The fact that he can run a very reliable and safe 330rwkw+ all day every day with nothing but injectors, fuel pump, exhaust, computer and a set of turbos or a single on it where as the Neo would be a ticking time bomb at those power levels on an unopened motor..

so we're clear here , what do you think the big difference is between the two internally , apart from the piston itself? .

If i were going to build an engine from scratch , i would start with a 'rips' 3 litre bottom end , and put a 26 head on it .

But i have to ask, do you have a car to put it in? , if the answer is no , don't bother with anything engine wise until you have one, there's no point having 400rwk if the rest of the car is dead stock , there is no way you would be able to use the power anywhere . If you want to spend your money wisely , put it in the bank , leave it there until you can legally drive the car you want to . If you still want the same car then , there will always be a few for sale somewhere , you may be lucky and find one with all the hard work already done.

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what about a 300zx motor forged with heavy porting and a couple of gt28's bolted on with 25psi with E85, big cams etc...

or an ls1 with twin turbo and supercharger :)

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what chassis issues would be ran into? for example a gts4 with a rb26 making 350 atw

http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/id/2396/team-america-world-time-attack--ark-designs-bnr32-skyline-gt-r-intro-part-1.aspx

3 parts, multiple pages each.

This car has nothing to do with me. But there has been VQ put into r-chassis before. A friend is putting a VQ30DET into an S15 at the moment (the parts are pretty cheap for the HP).

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