So I Spun Out Again - Wtf Is Going On?

[666DAN]

My first R34 came with brand new Ziex, they were potentialy the scariest rubber I've ever driven on. Even on a bone dry road I'd have to be careful taking tight turns as the car would 4 wheel slide. And yes, a complete 'surprise' 360 was easily achieved in the wet.....from an unmodified n/a that's not good.

[sydking]

  On 05/11/2012 at 11:11 PM, 666DAN said:

My first R34 came with brand new Ziex, they were potentialy the scariest rubber I've ever driven on. Even on a bone dry road I'd have to be careful taking tight turns as the car would 4 wheel slide. And yes, a complete 'surprise' 360 was easily achieved in the wet.....from an unmodified n/a that's not good.

Im surprised this sort of crap can even be sold - there must be some sort of contributing factors, If they are doing this on all cars so to speak then what the hell is wrong with these people. How many of the avg joe public even know what size rubber they need let alone whats good and whats not. Too bad if granny needs to squeeze the brakes in the wet.... I believe in driving to the conditions of the road and my car, the avg person dosent, They think a car is a car, Hence will stomp the bakes, cut people off or turn corners to fast in wet and without knowing whats what its a recipe for disaster.

[tripsteady]

i know its ridiculous...i dont understand how they are still being sold ANYWHERE.

fitted some ku31s , havnt had a chance to properly test them in the wet , but in the dry they are fantastic and in slight drizzle conditions they didnt slip at all, even on boost

[Daleo]

  On 06/11/2012 at 7:52 AM, tripsteady said:

i know its ridiculous...i dont understand how they are still being sold ANYWHERE.

fitted some ku31s , havnt had a chance to properly test them in the wet , but in the dry they are fantastic and in slight drizzle conditions they didnt slip at all, even on boost

The KU31's are a pretty decent tyre on a budget. Had several sets; they last pretty well & grip wet & dry. Not even too noisy.

[666DAN]

I've got Kumhos on the CX-7 after replacing the Yokohamas, this was a big move considering I've always been a Yoko fanboi. To be honest, they're quieter, grippier and wearing better than the Yokohamas and weren't as obscenely priced. Definately changed my perception of the brand.

[Daleo]

  On 06/11/2012 at 10:18 PM, 666DAN said:

I've got Kumhos on the CX-7 after replacing the Yokohamas, this was a big move considering I've always been a Yoko fanboi. To be honest, they're quieter, grippier and wearing better than the Yokohamas and weren't as obscenely priced. Definately changed my perception of the brand.

+1

I was also a longtime Yokohama buyer; they crap on every Yoko I've ever bought.

[simpletool]

  On 26/08/2012 at 2:27 AM, tripsteady said:

Falken Ziex ZE912

265/35zr18 97w

and Boom goes the dynamite.

Ziex + wet + too much width + firm suspension + poor driver skills = Spin. It's SCIENCE !

[mad082]

i had ziex on 2 cars (at about the same time, since i was able to get them cheap). one were 235/45/17's on a magna, and the other were 195/50/15's on the missus SSS (stock suspension, wheels, etc). both where dead set slippery in the wet. weren't too bad in the dry, but the wet was pretty shocking. currently got toyo teo plus on the pulsar and they are much better. got some cheap nasty chinese crap on my commodore at the moment. they have more grip than the ziex did.

[kawasakirider]

I'll get flamed for this but I've got 235/30/19 nankangs all around on the Z32 and so far they feel fairly good, only driven in the wet properly once with them, but it wasn't so bad.

[Tai1or Made]

[GTR-N1]

  On 07/11/2012 at 12:25 PM, kawasakirider said:

I'll get flamed for this but I've got 235/30/19 nankangs all around on the Z32 and so far they feel fairly good, only driven in the wet properly once with them, but it wasn't so bad.

I had Nankang S once on my 4WS 4th Gen Prelude.

> in the wet after crossing the Victoria Bridge Penrith and following a Vectra on a left hand bend, I lost control and did a 270

> unperturbed, the Vectra just drove away, still doing 60Km/Hr approx

> incensed with how these Nankangs with only 6000Km useage performed in the wet, I went to Blair's Tyres who are their agents

> Blair's rang Nankang and told them my story

> Nankang to their credit offer very good service but,

> they offered me another set of the same - Lol

> I sold the car - only because I was 'over it' of course

> told the buyer to be careful in the wet

[BLITZ-26]

get them to dial a little bit of camber out 1.25 is good and run some toe in on the rear i this will help traction in the wet and dry substancialy i run o.5 each side 1mm total with is more fro less grip for drifting but running 1mm each side will help a lot i could take corners at 60on a round about before mine wouls start to slip it has coilovers sway bars etc but u have to gently flow the wheel if u jerk ft or brake entering the corner or mid corner u shift the weight of the rear to the front and can cause a spin very fast .....

[ras1983]

Since we've moved onto the topic of crappy tyres... I've never understood why people buy sports cars and then buy cheap, crap and potentially lethal tyres. What's the point of doing that when tyres basically make or break a car? There are plenty of decent mid-spec tyres available that won't break the bank and that will at least give decent levels of handling.

[*LOACH*]

  On 08/11/2012 at 1:26 AM, ras1983 said:

Since we've moved onto the topic of crappy tyres... I've never understood why people buy sports cars and then buy cheap, crap and potentially lethal tyres. What's the point of doing that when tyres basically make or break a car? There are plenty of decent mid-spec tyres available that won't break the bank and that will at least give decent levels of handling.

Tyre are consumable, other mods are considered to be more permanent.

[Miguelone]

Oil is consumable too, but how many blokes with cheap tyres on their modified car are going to fill it with Coles brand oil?

[*LOACH*]

Terrible oil will cause damage to your engine regardless of how you drive it. Terrible tyres cause control of the car to be lost at a lower threshold.

Edited November 8, 2012 by *LOACH*

[Miguelone]

Exactly, one ruins your engine, the other ruins your handling. Why would you build a car in either way only to not be able to enjoy its full potential. Makes no sense.

[joe2548]

falken Ziex tyres are fine... its the rear width...

I was running 17' falken 235/45's and never a problem even when they were worn out...

---front tyres wore on the inside coz of camber then were switched to the back

that said it had bilstein suspension, and always handled twice as good as stock susp.

I liked to go sideways and in the wet it was pretty fun. - did hit some oily patches of road and they become dangerous(like every tire)

wider rear tyres(265's) means less grip in the wet.... water cant get out of the tyre...

235's on the back would give you more grip in the wet.

this is on r33 gtst, 3' exhaust.

[tripsteady]

  On 09/11/2012 at 12:16 AM, joe2548 said:

falken Ziex tyres are fine... its the rear width...

I was running 17' falken 235/45's and never a problem even when they were worn out...

---front tyres wore on the inside coz of camber then were switched to the back

that said it had bilstein suspension, and always handled twice as good as stock susp.

I liked to go sideways and in the wet it was pretty fun. - did hit some oily patches of road and they become dangerous(like every tire)

wider rear tyres(265's) means less grip in the wet.... water cant get out of the tyre...

235's on the back would give you more grip in the wet.

this is on r33 gtst, 3' exhaust.

ziexs arent fine. they are terrible , and this has been proven time and time again among hundreds if not thousands who where unfortunate enough to buy those tyres.

good luck with your crashing into $hit goals of 2013

[mad082]

  On 09/11/2012 at 12:16 AM, joe2548 said:

falken Ziex tyres are fine... its the rear width...

I was running 17' falken 235/45's and never a problem even when they were worn out...

---front tyres wore on the inside coz of camber then were switched to the back

that said it had bilstein suspension, and always handled twice as good as stock susp.

I liked to go sideways and in the wet it was pretty fun. - did hit some oily patches of road and they become dangerous(like every tire)

wider rear tyres(265's) means less grip in the wet.... water cant get out of the tyre...

235's on the back would give you more grip in the wet.

this is on r33 gtst, 3' exhaust.

The ziex i had were 235 and they were shit, as were the 195s on the missus car, and that was the standard size. Every other tyre I've had on the missus car has been fine