Formula 1 2013

[Aggroman]

^^agreed, its a stupid tight apex with only one car width at the best of times, dunno how hdr expects a f1 car to pivot 90 degrees drive forward a meter then pivot 90 degrees again in order to leave a space for a 2nd.. Perez said it all I cooked my brakes cause im young, impatient and trying too hard to prove myself at a new team because everyone doubted my ability.

I rate kobi over perez anyday back at sauber, didnt win the 1-2 races but kobi was almost always a higher grid position, drove like a mad man and if he overcooked it he only hurt himself (maybe one incident contrary) and was consistently in the top 10 for the half the season or more.

seb now with a 15-25 point lead in the champ I believe which is a pain in the ass to come back from for kimi, it was about this time that alonso had to step it up big time to catch vettel last year was it not?

[hrd-hr30]

Overheated brakes was the reason for Perez's retirement, and the cause of his issues in the last two braking areas immediately before stopping. Seems fairly obvious... That had nothing to do with the Kimi incident.

And that was the most reasonable of your comments about the crash and what Perez said. Won't bother addressing the rest.

[89CAL]

Are we all forgetting how hard it is to see out of a Formula 1 car? To 'know' exactaly where Perez was at that point is asking a bit I think. It really depends the last time Kimi looked in the mirror. They did only touch rear wheel to front wheel so there wasnt much in it.

[sh@un]

no-one expects the crazy Mexican

[hrd-hr30]

lol if Kimi didn't think Perez was going up the inside, why was he defending that way so hard?

and Perez had telegraphed that move with another attempt there not long before, remember...

It wasn't very Kimi-like at all. He normally plays the percentage game, but he mentioned something about a previous race where Perez ran him off the track, so that's obviously a factor here. And was on the radio earlier just giving Perez a spray for being an idiot. I think Kimi let it get personal. This was much more Senna-esque than Kimi-like. Only difference is that Senna would have actually punched him in the face after the race rather than just saying it. Senna was known for introducing himself like that to new guys who had the audacity to pass him. lol another thing that didn't make it to the movie of old St Senna...

/rant

Edited May 27, 2013 by hrd-hr30

[Roy]

He needed to though. Its a long season and if there is a guy only out for fame from a move or a single race then it can hurt his championship. Perez likes some of the rough stuff which is fine with me. But there is rough stuff and dangerous stuff. I dont know what is worse, Perez doing it as a strategy or Romain doing it being absent minded

Anyway, Kimi has at least given Perez something to think about next time Perez thinks he can muscle Kimi.

They say they chose Perez because he is good and has potential to be even better. Kobi had shown what he was capable of and there wasnt any potential left. As it stands seeing them in the same car for two seasons and Perez in a McLaren alongside Button for a season I think Perez may be at 95% rather than the 65% that McLaren had hoped and on merit Kobi is ultimately the better driver. Suppose McLaren will be on the lookout for Kimi as well as Red Bull and Lotus

I will add that I was reading that Bernie is trying to sweet talk Renault in again taking a steak in Lotus as it looks like Williams are going to Mercedes for next year. Bernie telling Renault they get far more exposure at a race meet with corporate facilities etc rather than Lotus being Lotus and RBR being Infiniti RBR. Lotus Renault does sound good but seems rather far fetched though having plausible foundations

[Owgasm]

Kimi got damn lucky to manage 10th again.

Hopefully he can keep on the streak!

[89CAL]

Alright, ignoring the Kimi incident, I think Perez is getting TOO aggressive and needs to tone it down a touch. I'm all for good racing, but we dont need another Maldonado running around. Agree to Disagree and all that, Looking towards the next race

Speaking of Maldonado. Outqualified and out-raced by his rookie team mate again. F#@! his sponsorship money, he is probably costing them more in car repairs anyawy. Kick him out and give a better driver a chance Williams

[wolverine]

Perez wouldn't have tried that on Schuey.

[PN-Mad]

So much butt hurt.

Bring on the next race so you can all talk about tyres again.

[ctjet]

Perez wouldn't have tried that on Schuey.

[wolverine]

^^ well on second thoughts I expect someone would to try and throw one up the inside of Schuey now.

[sh@un]

is that from your 'personal' collection, Ivan?

[tweety bird]

Kobayashi drove a 2010 Ferrari f1 car on Monday.

Kobayashi racing for Ferrari?

No massa?

[iamhe77]

That I would be very happy to see

[89CAL]

Be more exciting then Massa thats for sure

[Roy]

Be interesting to know if Massa will be ok for Canada. His crashes were very strange and from what I have read none are the result of car failure Be good to see Kobi come in as a super sub but reality is it will make more sense for Pedro to come back . He did the Pirelli test earlier in the eyar, knows the team and simulator etc. Big picture makes more sense then putting a guy who doesnt know the team, the car or the tyres and team workings in for a GP or two.

[hrd-hr30]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/05/27/f1-fanatic-roundup-2705/

Car failure caused Massa’s second crash F1 Fanatic round-up

May 27, 2013 at 12:50 am by Keith Collantine

132 comments

In the round-up: Ferrari confirm Felipe Massa’s second crash at Sainte Devote was, unlike the first one, caused by a car failure.

[Roy]

OK, thanks for the clarification. Sheds some light on just how at fault he was in the first?!?! Cant believe he would/could have had that accident oin P3 without some help from some engineers drunken work

[ctjet]

Car failure... please. We're not all that simple and naive

Two identical crashes... IDENTICAL... one caused by this mysterious "problem on the left front corner", and the other driver error?

They may be able to kid the idiots in America and Italy, but I'd like to think we're all a little more sceptical here

Clearly Ferrari are trying to keep the pressure of him because he will crack under the media spotlight and ruin yet another constructors tilt for them