Squattin

[Yo-Yo]

ahh I see, I'll try it out next time

I take it this will help me to build up strength a bit quicker?

[macaroni646]

For the guys who are getting knee pain, try taking some krill oil.

[r31slpr]

Found this a while ago, the IT band roll nearly made me vomit it hurt so much.

http://learntosquat.com/7/7.6.howtocurekneepain.html Some stretches to fix some forms of knee pain.

Also if you point your knees in you can hurt your knee

Haha you'll get used to the pain, I do it at a minimum every time I workout.

Can also vouch for itb release getting rid of some types of knee pain

[jangles]

For the guys who are getting knee pain, try taking some krill oil.

The price of krill oil per volume vs the concentration of EPA/DHA makes its a poor choice.

You're better off with a 3xstronger variant like blackmores.

[Marcus89]

I use to have no knee problems with my back squats.

Had shoulder surgery could not back squat anymore simply from getting arm/shoulder in back position for back squats.

Started to front squat only light weights as well as leg pressing.

Finally have the mobility to back squat at less than half max weight and can get knee pain unless very careful and I am very sure it's due to leg presses or less likely due to getting use to front squat form

[Brotato]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e66HhuHJIwI

[Birds]

3 weeks off from gym, was squatting for 7 sets a good idea?

The glutes today say no!

[rosella]

I last went to the gym in mid 1995 when I used to do bench press, chin ups and squats. I've always had weak shoulders, esp the left one after an AC dislocation at aged 12 falling of a horse. I could only press 100kg.

The squats used be in the chair machine that had your legs at 45 degrees. I was able to push nearly 280kg and get my knees to my chest. I used all the weights from the vertical squating area that it disrupted many workouts. I joined the group and was doing 200kg squats.

I was a field hockey goal keeper and it improved my speed off the mark. I was a vegetarian.

I was 92kg at the time and put on 6kg during the 3 mths in the gym.

Then I got the flu just before going overseas and that put paid to the gym work.

Nowadays I just do manual work around the garden and chopping wood to enhance the muscles. I also use a large yoga ball and squat using an internal door and hold the plank position for 3 minutes using the core muscles.

Now I'm about 95kg and no longer a vegetarian.

[Birds]

[bozodos]

2014, not low bar squatting as per based Rippetoe's instructions

[Trozzle]

I...I...what?

[L33SH]

I last went to the gym in mid 1995 when I used to do bench press, chin ups and squats. I've always had weak shoulders, esp the left one after an AC dislocation at aged 12 falling of a horse. I could only press 100kg.

The squats used be in the chair machine that had your legs at 45 degrees. I was able to push nearly 280kg and get my knees to my chest. I used all the weights from the vertical squating area that it disrupted many workouts. I joined the group and was doing 200kg squats.

I was a field hockey goal keeper and it improved my speed off the mark. I was a vegetarian.

I was 92kg at the time and put on 6kg during the 3 mths in the gym.

Then I got the flu just before going overseas and that put paid to the gym work.

Nowadays I just do manual work around the garden and chopping wood to enhance the muscles. I also use a large yoga ball and squat using an internal door and hold the plank position for 3 minutes using the core muscles.

Now I'm about 95kg and no longer a vegetarian.

Why are you no longer a vegetarian?

[TTT]

2014, not low bar squatting as per based Rippetoe's instructions

If I may suggest one thing...

do NOT follow his advise on pushing the elbows "UP"

This will f**k your elbows and forearms and will either take AAAAAAGES to get better or never 100% better.

You also use alot less quad muscle doing it his way as it's all about hip drive etc so don't be suprised if your quads look a little shit while your arse grown.

I reckon add high bar or front squats to keep things growing well.

Don't end up doing good mornings while squatting... this becomes very common using Rips "sit back, drive hips up" style teachings.

LOL... f**k.. read your posts as "now" squatting as per rip.... instead of "not"

this post is now useless. lol

Edited February 3, 2014 by TTT

[bozodos]

it was a tad tongue in cheek, but I found his instruction on having the thumb over the bar and elbows back and closer to the body to help a lot with my squat, that and forcing knees out when going down. I don't push them any further up than what feels natural - I started reading his 60 page thesis on the squat in Starting Strength, but it all became too TL;DR! I disagreed mostly with the looking down part - I tried doing that vs looking up with the eyes and found that I was doing half good mornings!

Yeah his hip drive thing seems to be a bit controversial - I've seen a bit of bashing of it in PL circles. That said, some Olympic lifters don't like low bar at all.

I already have quite big quads relative to my arse, so not really concerned there, not really keen on front squats without a coach there to show me how to do them right, but I'd considered it. This might sound a bit strange, but I noticed more quad involvement from squatting barefoot vs wearing trainers (started to feel unstable at the 140kg+ mark).

Edited February 3, 2014 by bozodos

[Birds]

No shoes will have you sitting further back on your heels and driving through them, which involves more leg press than good morning to the squat motion. Also pulls the weight further towards the back, so less of an angle for your back to start on during the up motion.

[Birds]

Why do people do quarter squats?

Do they lack the mobility to get up from a chair?

[bozodos]

probably because of the "deep squats are bad for your knees" crap that some people keep promoting. That or they're scared to get low

[No Crust Racing]

Or because they hear about guys like me who try to go low with either shit technique or poor mobility, or both, and end up with a prolapsed disc for their troubles

Self inflicted of course, but many people don't necessarily expect that they will be smarter/better/stronger than any number of people they've heard who have hurt themselves doing it wrong.

Yes yes I know get proper coaching, watch videos, practice light. I did all of that, still got it wrong, hurt myself, unfortunately, sometimes it just happens and some people would like to avoid it by not taking the risk.

I have no regrets. Every time I've injured something decently, it might take a year or two to work around it/strengthen it/partially recover etc, but I always come back more knowledgeable and usually stronger in the problem area.

[L33SH]

Wish I had your attitude Dan, can't seem to get out of my negativity atm, got to the point where I now hate the gym,

[No Crust Racing]

All I can suggest is that you do what I do and change up the routine to something you enjoy/can do without risk/injury/pain etc while you're working on problem areas.

All I do at the moment is 3x 40min sessions and all they include is some bench, chins, dips, and various stretches for my back, plus some planks some light calf raises and lunges. Mostly things I enjoy or can do without risk to making my issue worse while I work on it.

Gotta keep the attitude positive and if the workout becomes a chore then motivation goes out the window, take a full week off or just spend a full week doing only the stuff you like to get you back on track.