Pod Filter Debate

[laanyy]

So recently iv just done the 100k on my GT.

6 iridium bkr5eIV - 11.

6 splitfires

High flow air panel.

New timing belt.

New pulleys.

Oil and all that shabazz.

(no need for oil details)

Anyway I still have 10 days to decide to take back the k&n panel and replace.

I have been thinking recently about building a cold air intake from the front right side bumper and using a heat Sheild under the AFM. Exchange the panel for pod.

My only reasoning is I had a lot of fun working on her doing the above listed and don't want to stop so want a decent project.

And B have heard of noise changes. I would be loving to hear if a whistle (ish) noise is possible.

I know a lot of people say a standard high flow panel is enough. But if I'd work on a heat shield and a intake pipe all the way from the front right. I couldn't see it taking in a different temp of air from the original air intake under the bonnet catch.

Anyway cheers guys.

Be keen to hear from you all and if you have any tutorials you know of to post please do so.

Laany

[vetter2769]

Hey mate, I got my hands on a apex super flow, the pod filter is supposed to decrease turbulence created by cheap pod filters, and somehow flows better air into the turbo.

I also grabbed a already made panel that stops "heat soak" meaning supposedly stops engine heat going through your pod filter and just draws in cold air.

also got a maf adapter.

Pod filter - $80 delivered

Panel - $80

Maf adapter - $12

[laanyy]

I have a n/a though man so taking that into consideration does it all still work the same.

[vetter2769]

I have a n/a though man so taking that into consideration does it all still work the same.

Lol sorry man, best mod you could do is -

a.) sell non turbo

b.) buy turbo

[Ben C34]

Stock filter would not be a restriction at all on an na.

Did you replace cam shaft and crank seals and water pump during service?

[laanyy]

I did not. I'm still waiting on a few parts. I was going to get back in there to do the water pump when I get it. But I didn't know to do the shaft or seals?

[laanyy]

And by stock filter what do you mean?

[89CAL]

The stock panel filter in the airbox

[Ben C34]

And by stock filter what do you mean?

The original nissan filter. They are good.

Replacing the camshaft seals is very easy whe n you have the timing belt off. They typically leak pretty soon.

The inlet one is very easy to pick out, the exhaust one carefully screw a self tapper screw into it to get it out.

[The Bogan]

Don't they come standard with a CAI.

If yours doesn't have one then I would chase a standard one down and use a OEM filter.

Modifying a N/A to get some power is a futile effort unless you are willing to spend 10's of thousands of dollars to get 100kw of extra power.

You can make it sound better with a pod, it may either make the same power, or, most likely less power though.

Its all basic science and physics.

[KiwiRS4T]

If you want your car to go faster spend your time and money on tyres, suspension and brakes. If you want it to sound like a turbo powered car buy a GTT.

[scotty nm35]

Take the K+N back, they are illegal these days for a few reasons, the main one being they cover the AFM in oil causing them to miscalculate the airflow.

Pod filters are crap, they suck hot air from the engine bay unless they are in a perfectly designed and sealed CAI, It would cost you plenty of coin to even get close to matching the efficiency of the stock airbox.

I have seen the standard sized Nissan panel and airbox flow 500kw so the intake is not your problem. ^^ Listen to Bob, tyres, suspension and brakes would actually make you faster and safer.

[niZmO_Man]

m8 dunt listn 2 dese noobs. U shud install da pod filta wit intacoola lyk dis

[dyl33]

Lol that is proper genius, Respect to all the inter-pod users out there.

[Cassbo]

Take the K+N back, they are illegal these days for a few reasons, the main one being they cover the AFM in oil causing them to miscalculate the airflow.

I'm inclined to disagree. I have had a K&N panel filter in my R33 for around 7 years and I am yet to have any issues with my AFM, the biggest issue I have is that the filter cleaning solution plays havoc with my skin so I need to wear gloves when cleaning my filter. In this time I have also have plenty of police look at the K&N sticker on my air box and not one has made a comment regarding it. K&N (obviously) stand behind their product and it shows as they appear to have done plenty of testing to show that K&N filter oil does not contaminate AFM sensors which can be read here

On the flip side, I think there are very limited performance gains to be had with a K&N (or any aftermarket) filter. I find the K&N item is preferable as I can take it out, clean it, re-oil it and slap it back in without having to go and get a new filter.

tl;dr

My message to the OP; no filter in existence is going to give you the whistle you are looking for. A pod filter may give you a bit of an induction noise but that's about it.

As for a cold air intake, watch this video and make up your own mind

[Plattsy]

pod filters kill babies.

fact.

[niZmO_Man]

Some dude in USA did some testing with air filters. Found that (surprise surprise) oiled filters weren't that great. Sponge filters (e.g. HKS) were shit. Best was Apexi paper but they are really expensive.

What's the cost of a K&N + oil/cleaners vs. $15 a year for a Ryco or Nissan paper filter? What are the gains and how much filtration do you lose? Those are the questions you should be asking yourself.

I rather have a paper filter that I can throw away than have a filter that I essentially keep rinsing.

OP, try a UniFilter (a.k.a. sponge on a funnel). I had one on my GTS-t when I first got it, it was loud as fark and filtered nothing smaller than leaves and pebbles. You might get a hissing noise on an N/A.

You also have this option:

[jjman]

I have a n/a though man so taking that into consideration does it all still work the same.

when I bought my GTS (R33 N/A) it had a pod filter on it. Didn't make one ounce of different noise than the stock box. I changed it back to the stock airbox as pod filters are just shitty hot air intakes asking for a defect on an N/A.

[laanyy]

when I bought my GTS (R33 N/A) it had a pod filter on it. Didn't make one ounce of different noise than the stock box. I changed it back to the stock airbox as pod filters are just shitty hot air intakes asking for a defect on an N/A.

That's what I was waiting for. Cheers man. Haha. Someone who's actually had it.

Thanks everyone.

Gonna just do a paint job and sell and get something else.

In East of Melbourne in Yarra Valley if anyone would know of anyone interested. Probably between 12-15k. Got 130 on clock.

[jjman]

not sure if you have one already but a nice cat back exhaust on an N/A really is a wonderful sound. Also a job you can do yourself and cheaply too if you pick up the cat back 2nd hand.

Don't be tempted to go for a GT-T cat back though as the turbo exhaust are too open and loud for N/As. It will drone...