BlackBox Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Hi, I have a R34 GTT running an apexi power FC computer, After mentioning that I am going to a top mount Forced performance 3076 turbo I was told I should upgrade to a Haltec Platinum Pro. E85 is not an option for me so there is no advantage there. However the 2-stage launch control and flat shifting features of the Haltec interest me. My boost is currently controlled by the PFC hand controller, but if I got the Haltec I would need to install another form of EBC? I have also seen the map sensor only supports 1.5 bar of boost? What advantage would the Haltec offer other than more tuning resolution (32x32 vs PFC 16) and the ability to ditch the Z32 afm Appreciate any input and discussion Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
r32-25t Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Anything that gets rid of the air flow meter is a step forward 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7436652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBrennan25 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Anything that gets rid of the air flow meter is a step forwardDo not underestimate how much of a big deal no AFM's are. Also I just upgraded to a haltech in my R34 and I couldn't recommend it more. Yes it can fully control boost if you buy the boost control solenoid and you can buy an external MAP sensor that will measure up to 5 bar (from memory). It also has much better knock control than the PFC I would definitely recommend it if you're chasing big power, there's more inputs and outputs you can use to watch AFR's, intake and exhaust temp and like a million other things to keep you engine nice and safe 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7436657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Best thing I ever did was get rid of the pfc. My link g4 drives sooooooo much better 2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7436699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgaz Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 the turbo itself shouldn't be a reason to ditch the powerfc....and with that turbo you probably won't max out a Z32 Afm. It really depends what your goals with your car are. the tuning resolution on PFC is 20x20 not 16x16 the newer ECU's do have more features as the others have already mentioned so these should be considered for your future planning, but for what you currently have you don't need to change ECU yet. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7436787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
numleg Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I recently switched from PFC to haltech, the car runs the best it ever has, For me the benefits are no MAF is great, the PFC random cough thing is gone, boost intergration is nice, having a few extra IO points is handy for running others stuff you might add and full data logging for diagnosis Of course the skills/ability/attention to detail of the tuner will have a big impact on how the car runs. Boost control will work with your existing solenoid you'll just need wire it up to the haltech and I'd run the external MAP sensor regardless of your desired boost level,I don't really like running a vacuum line back I to the cab If I was to do it again and wasn't going for flex fuel I'd still ditch the PFC. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7436860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I hated that pfc cough. Evrytime on the freeway. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7436870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anfanee Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Yes. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7436871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggaz Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Plus one for driving better with the newer ECU's. It's night and day! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7436877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XGTRX Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 All in all the haltec is a good system. Good functions and options. Just be mindful that it has intermittent problems in processing the cas signal which lead to timing variations of up to 20 degrees. Not the only system that does this either. That's why a pfc is always a safe bet if all the extra functions aren't needed. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7436924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr81 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 On a slightly different note. If I wanted to replace a PFC on an RB26 and keep the AFM's what ECU would be recommended? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7436938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NismoSTune Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 it's like ditching your 25 year old r32 for a new gtr. big upgrade. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7436952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinkstaah Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 If you are curious to learn about what your car is doing, and what an ECU can do, and monitor shit and .. really just 'see' more then yeah. Haltech's stuff is super easy to understand. The fact you can plug right into where the stock ECU is is just gravy. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7436956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r32-25t Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 On a slightly different note. If I wanted to replace a PFC on an RB26 and keep the AFM's what ECU would be recommended? i don't understand why you'd want to do this? but the plug and play haltec will do it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7436962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I think it depends on how much money you want to spend! My link g4 was cheap and that plugs right in. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7436986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr81 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 i don't understand why you'd want to do this? but the plug and play haltec will do it Because everything is installed and a plug and play changeover is a minimum change option. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7436997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I think he means keeping the afms Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7436999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r32-25t Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I think he means keeping the afmsthis, cause to get rid of the AFMs you need to do the massive unbelievably hard Job of fitting a vacuum line (sarcasm intended) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7437015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr81 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 this, cause to get rid of the AFMs you need to do the massive unbelievably hard Job of fitting a vacuum line (sarcasm intended) Sarcasm noted but not particularly appreciated. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7437041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r32-25t Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 so why do want to hold back the capabilities of a current generation ecu for the sake of something that will cost less then $5 and take 20mins to fit? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/451364-worth-upgrading-from-pfc-to-haltec-platinum-pro/#findComment-7437048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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