Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 173
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Warren you need to relax ;)

I only 'ever' type something if I am confident in what i am saying, the problem with all these kind of threads is people like yourself (and ARKON) compare modified Skylines with Standard competitors making any comparison totally irrelevant, liner32 in his first post said the R33 has an exhaust otherwise stock...why then assume its modified and say it'll beat a V6 or V8 VT Commodore..?

Arkon from your sig I can see your car is hardly standard, hence i'm sure it would beat a TJ Magna, my 'standard' Magna ran a 15.8, a 'standard' R33 GTsT would be no quicker ;)

thing is, mate, i am comparing what i consider an 'average' car for what is out there on the roads

if you looked for the 'average' commodore, you would find that they are mostly COMPLTELY stock. sure there are the odd one with exhaust etc. but there are so many compltely stock ones, that this makes them the average

if you looked for the 'average' R33, you would find that they are mostly with an exhaust and air filter. sure there are heavily modified ones but there are almost no compeltely stock cars.

so, the only meaningful comparison would be comparing the average car out there on the road

if you read my first post, then you will see that i agree that the V8 commo will beat an NA R33. hell, even a V6 commo would probably beat the NA R33

but if it were a GTS25T (read: R33 turbo) then that's a different story... don't believe me? go drive one

'98 supra wouldnt be to shabby

agreed ;)

best performance import NA is probably the NA mark4 supra

an R33GTS might be slower than a commonwhore, but it still handels like a skyline, and has everything else almost the same as its bigger brothers ;)

Misprint?

No....just pick up any copy of Wheels or Motor magazine, there figures are roughly the same ;)

There was a Standard Manual VRX TJ Magna running 15.4's, most of the other 3.5 TJs were running between 15.8 and 16.2 (AussieMagna.com Dragday) infact the Motoplexs own Demonstration / Celebrity BA Auto Falcon sedans run 15.8's....its hardly fast these days mate ;)

15.8? Do you even know what a standard GTST runs?

Yep...about the same ;)

No....just pick up any copy of Wheels or Motor magazine, there figures are roughly the same ;)

There was a Standard Manual VRX TJ Magna running 15.4's, most of the other 3.5 TJs were running between 15.8 and 16.2 (AussieMagna.com Dragday) infact the Motoplexs own Demonstration / Celebrity BA Auto Falcon sedans run 15.8's....its hardly fast these days mate ;)

Yep...about the same ;)

My old 33 ran a 13.9 @99mph with nothing more than an exhaust and dodgy frontmount? no ecu. no boost.

but if it were a GTS25T (read: R33 turbo) then that's a different story... don't believe me? go drive one

exactly, ive driven both, my car being a 33 gts-t, mums car being a vt commo.... the commo handles like shit coz its a bigger car, it still doesnt lack power but for a naturally aspirated family car, obviously the gts-t beats it coz the gts-t is a sports car with a turbo.

as for the n/a supra.... if i wasnt skyline mad then it woulda been my second choice of import for a car, they look sexy and have power as well.

Warren you need to relax ;)

I only 'ever' type something if I am confident in what i am saying, the problem with all these kind of threads is people like yourself (and ARKON) compare modified Skylines with Standard competitors making any comparison totally irrelevant, liner32 in his first post said the R33 has an exhaust otherwise stock...why then assume its modified and say it'll beat a V6 or V8 VT Commodore..?

Arkon from your sig I can see your car is hardly standard, hence i'm sure it would beat a TJ Magna, my 'standard' Magna ran a 15.8, a 'standard' R33 GTsT would be no quicker ;)

I didnt say my magna wouldnt beat my gtst , i said it wouldnt beat anything ! I bought my gtst stock auto and it was still much quicker than the magna . you ran what 15.3 ? stock gtst should run high 14s .

no offence , the magnas a nice car , great family mover for the wife but to say its going to beat a 2.5l turbo sports car is a bit bizarre .

and for the record I dont think the auto gts will beat a manual vt v6 , even with an exhaust . NA cubes count and the slush box is just the nail in the coffin

My old 33 ran a 13.9 @99mph with nothing more than an exhaust and dodgy frontmount? no ecu. no boost.

serious??? thats not bad at all, i always thought that gts-t's were supposed to run high 14's "stock", keep in mind like i said before...... it'd be hard to find this out as i challenge sumone to get a completely stock R33gts-t no mods at all completely factory issue and prove me wrong/right. coz all of the gts-t's ive seen have been modified to an extent, a simple exhaust is a mod therefore it isnt stock anymore even if it is only an exhaust.

what the hell is your objectives mate? Fastest car per $$?? I got my 4 door GTR for 16,000 and I can assure you that there aren't too many commodores that beat me. GTS-t's are like 9000 (imported of course) and supras are what? 24,000? R32 GTRs are roughly 20,000. Equally commodores vary in price and performance a lot... I would strongly recommend you just settle for the car that is best suited to you, and don't stress too much about trying to beat your mate, such wars usually end in tears.

yeah and dont think about insurance being cheaper for different types of cars either, insurance at 17 is always expensive, any age under 25 insurance is always expensive, a mate of mine drives a ford festiva, cost her $4,000 in comprehensive insurance coz shes only 19...... so you see, doesnt matter what car your in at this age, insurance is always a bitch.

what the hell is your objectives mate? Fastest car per $$?? I got my 4 door GTR for 16,000 and I can assure you that there aren't too many commodores that beat me. GTS-t's are like 9000 (imported of course) and supras are what? 24,000? R32 GTRs are roughly 20,000. Equally commodores vary in price and performance a lot... I would strongly recommend you just settle for the car that is best suited to you, and don't stress too much about trying to beat your mate, such wars usually end in tears.

4-door GTS4 with an rb26? :whackit:

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • The German place in Cabramatta was rock solid, fresh pretzel cooked to order back then. Then it went all quiet, after all the poker machines were removed, then I believe it closed for good. I did drive past the other week and noticed outdoor lighting a big screen, but no idea what is there now.  
    • Yeah I suspect even if you hold airmass per cycle/cylinder constant if you get too far away from stock you're still going to have problems running the factory tune within the bounds of the factory load scale. Cams, different displacement/rod ratio, etc. I'm just lucky that the GTIII-SS with wastegate boost + CA compliance cats is pretty much equivalent to stock turbos. When I have actual space I can finally get it tuned and modify the fuel system for flex fuel to 100% handle any detonation concerns when cranking the boost to whatever those dinky turbos can put out.
    • I would say no, why, because my daughter, who also lives in Goulburn, hasn't recommended us going there Pity, as we miss all the German joints around in Sydney, actually, the restaurants are the only thing I really miss about Sydney, and a special mention to Ishibanboshi at Bondi Junction, their Kara-age Don is heart cloggingly deliciousness (always added a special boiled egg...or 2) 😋 
    • Does that German restaurant still exist in the old place out the NW end of Goulburn? When I say "out the NW end of"...I am really being vague. It was 1997 when I was last there, and the only point of reference I can recall is that it was on the opposite side of the main drag from the big merino. And when I say "opposite side of the main drag", I don't mean "on the main drag". It was either a couple of streets back from there, or might have even been out in the sticks a bit further. Was an old farm building or mill or somesuch. And when I say "the big merino" I might actually be thinking of a completely different part of town, because I just looked on maps and the big bugger is not where I remembered him to be! The food was good, consisting largely of various German mystery-meat sausage/loaf things and kartofflen.
    • So while the second sentence is completely correct and the whole point of the conversation, the first sentence bears consideration. If this bloke is just hoping to throw big turbos on and drive it around, because there are no helpful facilities at all in his tropical paradise** then he likely has zero chance of even knowing what the TP is on the last column in the stock maps, let alone know whether the ECU is operating anywhere near it or past it. So the point is very very moot. And, per what I said before, at stock boost on those turbos, you may well be off the end of the map. **I'm just back from Vanuatu, so I know exactly what small Pacific nations can be like wrt paradise without requisite facilities. But it's not even that simple. I put a high flow on my car and had to drive it around without a proper tune because of the lack of opportunity*** to put the bigger AFM and injectors into it to allow it to be tuned. I had to turn the boost down to less than I had before, and back off the boost controller's ramp, because it was exploring parts of the map that it didn't drive in before, and really couldn't access for tuning on the dyno either, and so was pinging. It was still well within the last column, because when I first**** set up the Nistune on the Neo I rescaled all axes of the maps to give some more space to explore. ***Family dyno was broken ****This was 13 years ago, and the TIM thing wasn't a thing then and so TP would definitely grow when pushing past the stock tune's limits.
×
×
  • Create New...