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m3gtr Grand Master

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i cant sleep until i know whats going to happen.

I tried to dowload the photos of the case from F1s official ( ferrari biased website ) but all the material is protected...

i feel sick over this. A championship without Mclaren over this...

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great news!!! At 7:45pm Paris time, 2:45am Toyko time, the confederation convened with the decision to keep McLaren in the championship.

McLaren Have NOT been excluded from the WDC. They have been denied any points for the rest of the season but this will be for 2007 only! They still have a chance to win the WDCC if theyre lucky! :worship::) :) :):w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :)

drivers points will NOT be affected this year or the next.

the details havent been disclosed but im sure we will know soon enough. The F1 sites were jam packed tonight but i managed to get this...

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_new...es_art_id=32754

Thank God...

another link

http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2726904,00.html

i hope the drivers have their vegemite with them for tomorrow morning and i hope RD has a couple of Berocca beside the bedstand...

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NISMO Grand Master

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What a load of crap!

I still fail to see how McLaren is responsible for a bitter ex Ferrari employee.

At the end of the day, even if Mclaren saw details on every aspect of the Ferrari car, and copied everything wouldn't that make them even in terms of performance.

But no, Mclaren hands Ferrari it's a$$ and so how is this fixed, strip them of all points.

Just goes to show that if you sook long enough people believe what you're saying.

As for the fine, it's $100 million, MINUS any loss of income from the fact they stripped of points. Therefore fine = $0.

It's funny how this whole saga is about cheating, and the fix is for F1 and Ferrari to cheat and strip McLaren of their points. It was quite evident long ago that everything was being done to stop Mclaren winning. Afterall the financial impact to Ferrari would be devestating - a season with no Schuey and major prizes would have cost them millions in future revenue.

Oh well, the F1 now has one less fan to worry about.

NISMO Grand Master

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not really a fair decision imo...last time I checked LH and FA were racing and scoring points in the cars McLaren evidently cheated in building....

exactly, the fact the drivers were let off clearly shows that the whole saga was purely there to appease Ferrari. If they were guilty kick them out. The whole team, if not then completely leave them alone.

This decision allows F1 to have a potenital new poster boy in Hamilton should he win, and Ferrari get the constructors championship. It's all about $$'s. Nothing else.

djr81 Grand Master

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Well there is a surprise.

The FIA handed Ferrari a title on a plate.

How do you go from a $0 fine to exclusion & 100,000,000?

Then not bother to explain anything to anyone for a week or so? ie after the news cycle has run its course.

Had it not been so thoroughly expected, everyone would be shocked by their obvious bias.

So, are they going to strip Toyota of points or fine them? No, they aren't quicker than Ferrari.

Biggest mistake McLaren made was winning in Italy. They should have thrown the last race & everything would have been fine.

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hmm i am not all shock about the decision may by the FIA, at the end of the day the FIA has the sport as its number one priority. They wouldn't be able to ban McLaren without it hurting the sport hugely so although they found evidence that McLaren broke the rules, They had to look out for their interested along with Ferrari interested, and try and find a middle ground weather there decision was correct or not can be talk about for years to come but i think there is no point focusing on this anymore as it done and finish.... unless McLaren fights the ruling.

Also nismo your comments about how this is all about a Ferrari ex employee and nothing to do with McLaren is bullshit. McLaren have been found guilty or wrong doing meaning they knew about the doc. and did nothing about it. McLaren head boss could of easily report the doc to Ferrari and could have work something out as soon as it happen but they choice not to and this is the result of there action

At the end of the day McLaren has been found guilty and i think everyone should note this, i think it has no longer become if it ever was a Ferrari witch hunt now that they are guilty.

djr81 Grand Master

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What everyone should note is a few points:

1. Court decisions are supposed to be about justice, not about finding a middle ground. It is a judgement, not mediation.

2. The FIA have not explained their verdict.

3. The McLaren owes nothing to the slower Ferrari in terms of design.

4. McLaren, as an organisation, knew nothing of the document. Only one person within the organisation did.

5. As soon a Ron Dennis found out about it he suspended the employee in question.

6. The FIA does not have the sport as its number one priority. It has consitantly demonstrated that reinforcing its own authority is its number one priority. More often than not this has been to the detriment of the sport, be it F1 or other categories.

On the up side it has made me change my mind about something:

Max Mosley is a far better fascist than his father ever was. (Oswald Mosley, look it up)

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ctjet Grand Master

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exactly, the fact the drivers were let off clearly shows that the whole saga was purely there to appease Ferrari. If they were guilty kick them out. The whole team, if not then completely leave them alone.

I really have to agree with that. Either kick them all out or leave them all alone. If the FIA has found them guilty as a team, they should be punished as a team. This judgement is making a mockery of the system and insulting its fans.

sh@un Grand Master

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They won't. Look what happened to Benetton all those years back. Their shit was more dodgy & they didn't get chucked out. The FIA have already passed judgement, so they can hardly go from no penalty to turfing them out. Although they did that to Tyrrell in 86.

Also given the new allegations are made up anyway, why bother about them?

The gearbox is much kerfuffle about nothing. What McLaren interpretted as a modification, the FIA interpreted as a new component. It wan't anyone being dodgy, just interpreting things differently. It passed the crash test, anyway.

amen bruvva

djr81 Grand Master

djr81

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Actually re reading what I posted I think I left out the word reasonably. But then the FIA have never been accused of being reasonable.

For those that remember Ken Tyrrell, this is what the FIA did to him in the mid eighties. Sorry about the quality, but it makes good reading if you can spare the time. Of it is from an Autocourse annual, back when they were worth reading.

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m3gtr Grand Master

m3gtr

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Actually re reading what I posted I think I left out the word reasonably. But then the FIA have never been accused of being reasonable.

For those that remember Ken Tyrrell, this is what the FIA did to him in the mid eighties. Sorry about the quality, but it makes good reading if you can spare the time. Of it is from an Autocourse annual, back when they were worth reading.

witch hunting. Plain and simple.

they needed a scapegoat and KT was it.

Its sad because KT was one of the sports greatest ambassadors. It boggles the mind as to how the FIA and FISA could actually get away with that in the face of all the evidence and impose their judgment regardless.

The same thing is happening to Mclaren.

Makes me sick to be honest.

So it was a win win for ferrari and the FIA. Ferrari got a title they didnt deserve and the FIA got 100million dollars which in essence is going to be used for ferraris benefit anyway...

who knows, maybe the FIA will donate that money in support of a starving 3rd world country...

Kaido_RR Grand Master

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Luca do Montezemolo might be happy with the World Championship being decided in Paris, but true D1 fans are not. That is not to say that Ferrari are the guilty party, they are not, they are the victims

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