Phillip Island Sprints - March 31

[Roy]

the way the ass was skating and moving around i wasnt game to come out of my enclosure at turn 12

You would have jumped out if i come plowing into the side of it

[ferni]

Watching the video I was going to suggest that to you.

I'm also suprised Jack uses 3rd through Southern Loop. I'd have thought 4th was a better option? What do the other R32/R33 GTR guys use through Southern Loop?

Yeah i found myself using 4th, still had a bit of power down low there, but could see how the guys with the larger turbos would stick to 3rd because of lag....

Snowy: "When the rear end's loose, the car's fast. Loose is fast, and on the edge of outta control"

I used this theory and undid most of the bolts on my car a couple of turns...

Now it just rattles.

Aren't rattles a feature of a commodore?

Also Troy/Tom - whoever needs space to upload vids let me know i can help you out.

[Roy]

I dont know if i trust Tom with the footage. There are some good laps and there are some shockers

I would be more comfortable if incriminating photos of me and a gerbil were floating around. It hits were it hurts when ppl question your driving prowess...WE ARE MEN AFTER ALL

[Budge]

I dont know if i trust Tom with the footage. There are some good laps and there are some shockers

I would be more comfortable if incriminating photos of me and a gerbil were floating around. It hits were it hurts when ppl question your driving prowess...WE ARE MEN AFTER ALL

Aint that the truth, but without the shitter laps you dont learn.

Without going in too fast you don't know where your limit is.

I say post up everything and let the time at the end of the day tell the story.

<--- gerbil says hi

[Do-Luck]

Loved your lap Brisby, you sure have some talent to keep a that car tamed like that and to get an awesome time to boot

[Al]

Loved your lap Brisby, you sure have some talent to keep a that car tamed like that and to get an awesome time to boot

Agreed!!

[Roy]

Wait until the 29th's no noise restriction day. It will be beer, cigars and strippers to celebrate or flowers on my headstone

But in all seriousness the car moves around but it is very controllable so not that hard to drive

[blackrex]

Recovery FTW!!!!

I did 65km's around the track on Saturday, and found out that the Navara will do turn 1 at 110kph, but not 115kph.

Also, the Megaphone is great fun, especially for ordering lunch.

[Bec]

Also, the Megaphone is great fun, especially for ordering lunch.

HAHAHA

[Roy]

Also, the Megaphone is great fun, especially for ordering lunch.

James will be jealous

[Hardman69]

some great shots there Nathan... congrats on the time as well, just a pity about the box!

Hehey, ta! You're turning the R33 into a track-bitch, right? I was chattin 2 U about harness mounts?

Holla if You want some input or help on that thing, should turn out to be a VERY handy bit of kit! I tend to have a decent knack for car/speed/self-modifying/setup type things. (sure You've 100s of ideas Yourself!)

Oh, Here's My fave WRX from the day: (Chunky!)

[NickR33]

yep number one thing on my list is a harness for next time... can't steer properly when your hanging onto the steering wheel for dear life!

can you pm me with your suspension setup too? I think my suspension will be too soft when I move up to the RE55's but yours looked good and stable... do you have a diff in there too or just stock... I was single spinning out of some of the corners even in 3rd gear:(

Cheers again for the pics

[Roy]

Hardman69, what susp are you running. Your times were good considering your mods and time on the track

[Hardman69]

Hardman69, what susp are you running. Your times were good considering your mods and time on the track

Hehe, I don't mind sharing - not like we're racing !

Diff is standard Viscous Limo' - so it might as well be a single-spinner!!!! Thinkin of doing the shim-mod I saw in a magazine, while the gearbox is out. Should tighten it RIGHT UP if the article is true . . . (must get mag off mate)

Front Anti-Roll bar is 22mm

Rear Anti-Roll bar is 27mm (MONSTER!)

It's got BASTARD-HARD HKS Hiper-D' coilovers all-round, You know: the first series (purple), before they went to Hiper-Drift ?

If someone can find out the spring-rates and tell Me, I'd be MUCH obliged !

Adjustable ONLY in bump, Rebound is set (grrrr.. . . ) - The clicks I run are (out of 12)

Street:

F: 1 R: 2

Track (Street Tyres):

F: 2->4 R: 4->7

Track (Re55s):

F: 5->8 R: 4->5

The R-Compounds give WAY more front-end grip than street tyres, so I go much harder on the front-end to reduce/calm brake-dive, and cut turn-in oversteer. Setup-wise, It felt GREAT at P.I. - as "Right" as anything has ever felt to me. The main reason for the decent times, is that I can dial-in to braking points and corner-speeds pretty quickly, from when I raced Karts. The rear RE55s are TT-compound too, so they're ON by the end of the warm-up lap ! ! !

[Hardman69]

Just watched the YouTube vid. Ummm, Roy: I'm not the most tactful of chaps, not sure exactly how to put this - So I'll just say it:

YOUR R32 LOOKS EVIL TO DRIVE ! ! ! !

I know You're putting down a good-whack more power than Me, but JEEZUS does that rear-end LUUURRVV to break-out ! ! !

Where You snapped sideways in T3 (BIG KUDOS for the catch!), I'm driving through clean, with 0.9->1.05Gs Lateral, 1.4->2.4deg sideways, at 186->191km/h. I ended up wherever I wanted for the braking zone - Looks like You worked HARD to get it lined up in the vid ! ! I pretty-much just let the front end grind away in steady-state mild understeer - no heart-attack moments!

Is there any adjustment in your setup? It looked twitchy through Hayshed too - I was SUPER stable there, 1->1.2Gs at 170km/h, and NO slip whatsoever. YAY ! (not that mine didn't oversteer: 3->7 degrees of slide was NORMAL on my quickest lap around Southern Loop, Siberia and Lukey. 10degrees through T12!)

Think about maybe a stack of soft rubber bushes and custom rear Anti-Roll bar links, so that you can add/remove bushes to the Rear A.R.B.Links and effectively soften-off the rear - roll as You please. The even dodgier way, is to just loosen off the nuts and give it some slack!! That'll make it come-in suddenly (but softer than now) as it rolls into the corner though . . . . NOT GOOD!

My 2cents anyway. . . . and Jack's car looks MEGA neat & stable! (I take it R33 GTRs have taller Diff ratios? I was a gear-up most corners on that, and fighting wheelspin - even in 4th!)

[SXR]

Diff is standard Viscous Limo' - so it might as well be a single-spinner!!!! Thinkin of doing the shim-mod I saw in a magazine, while the gearbox is out. Should tighten it RIGHT UP if the article is true . . . (must get mag off mate)

Yeah, i have done it of Mavrics GTS-t.....feels like a 2 way

[Roy]

I know You're putting down a good-whack more power than Me, but JEEZUS does that rear-end LUUURRVV to break-out ! ! !

I think its a combination of the new 1.5 KAAZ diff and my old swaybar settings. I was only making somewhere around the 220-230rwkws as i didnt bother running full boost as it was enough of a handful with the boost turned down

Is there any adjustment in your setup?

I do not have adjustable shocks but i have adjustable front and rear swaybars. (27mm front / 24mm rear) The front is on the middle setting and the rear is on its hardest. If i used the correct gear through turn 1 and hayshed it woudl settle the car down. But you are right, something has happened that has made the car twitchier then it used to be. Im hoping its just that the supension is 6yrs old and seen better days.

Im back at PI later this month where i will be backing off the rear bar to hopefully settle the rear a bit. My main concern is as you noticed i have trouble pulling the car up and getting the car positioned for good corner entry. The bars wont do anything on that front...need to look at rebuilding the shocks and gettign higher rate springs, or just get somehting off the shelf.

That all said, it is fun to drive ...but would be easier to drive and no doubt quicker if i could get the balance a little nicer. Doesnt help that the R32 GTSt chassis is pribably the least rigid of the models out there

[Hardman69]

Yeah, i have done it of Mavrics GTS-t.....feels like a 2 way

OH YEAH BABY! Do You know the part Number of the Shim, Ray? Co$t?

I need to replace the gasket behind the Diff's rear-cover anyway, it's weeping & stinking the car up with diff-oil.

SMELL the dead Dinosaur ! !

Roy: FULL STIFF F.T.W. on that front-bar dude! at least it'll scrub the nose wide then, instead of snapping the rear loose!

mmm, rebuilding at LEAST the FRONT shocks is probably in order after 6 years . . . . How's the Kaaz 1.5way feel?

[Roy]

Did not like the front bar on full stiff at all. With my turbo on the lil RB20 you dont want to be losing the front end and having to back off mid corner. You will never get the thing back on boost

Kaaz felt ok i suppose. Didnt really notice any difference, will expect that i will notice the difference at Sandown getting out of those slow corners.

[NickR33]

thread about shimming the stock viscous unit here> http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...howtopic=160540

also Nathan if you want to find out your spring rates go to the Suspension, braking and tires section see the sticky at the top of the page... just measure up your springs and SK will tell you the spring rate

I might put the hard word on SK to do a more track orientated setup for the GTSt