Can I Lower Car With Wheels Outside Guards?

[Rekin]

Hey,

Im just about to purchase some shocks+springs but have just stumbled across a dilemma...

My car currently is sitting on stock suspension and i have 17inch R45 Impul hoshino RS rims with bolt on spacers...

Front: 215/45R17 87W

Back: 225/45R17 91W

From center of Rim to guard is 360mm

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5585/dscn2801br2.jpg

The suspension im buying is pictured on this car; i believe they are GTR R32 rims;

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2285/shocksetuppj4.jpg

Is there any way that it will work with my current rims?

Do i have any other options with lowering with these rims?

Thanks

Patrick

edit;

some info i found about my rims on internet although they could be wrong;

17 inch 8/9J OFF +31/+38

[robbieraver]

well in short, no

first,l it wont be road worthy if your tyres are out further than your guards.

second, your tyre if it is out futher than the guard it will hit the guard every time you go over a bump.

third, lose the spacers, your car is designed around certain geometry and putting spacers in will either give you too much feed back or too little feef back on the steering tyres.

just my 2 cents worth.

[Rekin]

rims need the spacers to clear the callipers so cant lose them without changing rims & tyres which im not so keen on

[KURAUN]

buy my 20mm wider guards they dont worry bout lowering or spacers ....free bump for my stuff in the for sale section

[n15m0]

Depends on how far out they stick out. Every inch you lower the car, the wheels will produce some negative camber which would be bad for tyre wear, but will bring it closer under the guards. Seeing as you already run fairly thin tyres, if they stick out too much as it is, then the you have 3 options:

1. Replace wheels with correct offset and clears calipers

2. Do not lower your car

3. Lower the car and roll your guards

Spacers are illegal and would void ur insurance if u were involved in an acco, not to mention if the cops spot it...prepare lube.

[Rekin]

Thats the thing, you can barely tell that they stick outside the guards.

Picture of my car, tilted to one side, transfering weight onto right side;

barhumbug why didnt the japanese owner buy proper rims for the car!!1 -.-''

[n15m0]

Actually the above pic paints a better picture..u probably would be able to get away with it once lowered...rears should tuck in and fronts may just need lipping .

[Rekin]

Here is a picture of the front wheel; will get a better picture tomorrow;

Reckon i can still lower it without any problems?

Thanks

[arep3]

Will R34GTR rims fit on pats car without spacers and nicely lowered?

[Rekin]

a quick photo i just took of the front wheel;

[Al]

Pat in all the pics i can not see the rim sticking out the guard As long as the rims stick under the guard from the top of the arch, you'll be ok. That's only judging from the pics, it may be different on closer inspection.

PS: Did you scrap your front bar?

[Ronin 09]

they hardly look like they are sticking out...

[Al]

Do not get the after market widened guards, as you have to hack the original guard arch to fit them.

Rolling/lipping the guards may be an option, but this is prone to cracking the paint on the rolled section.

[Rekin]

yeah the rims dont seem to stick outside the guard. Pulled out a measuring stick and was lining it up to see haha

Frontbar has scuff from Japan. The previous owner had no idea (bumper scuff and wrong offsets sigh haha)

suspension has been purchased so will see how it goes

kyb shocks with hks springs - a temp solution until i can afford some fancy blistein/whitline

If there will be problems ill just have to sell/trade the rims

Thanks all!

[BHDave]

You wont have a problem on the rear, they can come out another 5mm atleast before you run into trouble (if you stick with 235's). The front's are probably touch and go if you do any sort of hard driving. It will sit fine when lowered and for general driving, but you may scrub on the loaded side when cornering hard.

Just as an example, my old street rims were 17x8 +30 front with 215/45 tyres and they scrubbed slightly when driven hard. I recon they sat a good 10mm further in board than yours. If your offsets are listed correctly above and you have a 15mm bolt on spacer you have an effective offset of +16.

[Beer Baron]

from those pics neither the front or rear are sticking out at all.

I was running 17X9 +30 all round with 235s all round on my 32 GTST and never had a problem. and they stuck out more that yours for sure.