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haha no pressure. I actually have a friend who just did his first cycle, has a week left and put on about 8kgs. We think he will drop bit of that weight cause he said he put most of it on in a week or two.. was interested in how much Vspec managed to keep.

I cant really risk roids due to having a heart condition called ARVD especially if all I was hoping to gain and manage to keep is like 4-5kg, which is a good gain i realise but the risk to the reward not really there.

Too many downsides to the roids that I could afford haha!

Doing it natural will be far more satisfying in the long term imo

On another note, I did the seated behind the neck press for the first time today. I liked it, managed to push out 5 sets of 8 (only made 7 on the last set) on what I think was 60kg. I think I'll alternate between it and dumbell shoulder press from now on!

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Military = standing press, whether behind neck or not, to my knowledge. It's also traditionally done with a barbell. If you're doing it standing, make sure your knees are slightly bent to preserve your back and put one foot forward.

I never do it behind the neck, I have been told by a few trainer it's actually bad for you

Yeah...f**k that. They say the same about lat pulldown. It might be riskier for injury, but I have been doing both exercises behind neck for many years with no adverse results. You do need to have a good technique and build up flexibility to pull off a decent range of motion (i.e. touching neck), though.

I like behind neck because it isolates the delts and you can't really "cheat" by involving your chest.

Good advise Birds, I'll keep that in mind.

What are you guys doing in terms of barbell military press? I'm finishing up on 55kg barbell.

(mind you I'm Asian, 6 ft, 86kg, can't get any stronger.. been plateauing for ages)

Military behind neck and touching it, 40kg x 10 on the first three sets, 50kg x 10 on the last three. 79kg 6'3

What sort of body fat do you estimate Johnny?

I am not too sure to be honest, never really looked into that. I am bigger than all my asian mates, and on a good day can bench 110kg with some spotting.

I find that I can't get any stronger, and if I start eating a tad less I shrink. I'm a tad flabby, like not defined.

Probably 20% body fat?

Oh, so Birds is a guy, cheers Mitch

Sorry about that Birds, odd username

All good brother, had the nickname since I was young and my avatar doesn't help :)

That being said, I know a girl who is about 6'5 and her boyfriend is nearly 7' lol.

I think if you doing any form of resistance training you're going to get gains from it in the long term. But tailoring that program to suit your goal is what will yield the improvements you are most keen to see.

That has been one of the smartest posts i've seen on here.

Crossfit works, cardio works, powerlifting works, weightlifting works, bodybuilding works...it all works. Just depends what YOU need from it.

That has been one of the smartest posts i've seen on here.

Crossfit works, cardio works, powerlifting works, weightlifting works, bodybuilding works...it all works. Just depends what YOU need from it.

Does frequent masturbation work?

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